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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #31
    Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

    Originally posted by azabob
    Footy manger is now coach of Brisbane.
    Lewis is on record as saying he is getting Roughead to clean out his locker.
    Hill was traded.
    Mitchell quit or was pushed.
    Now you twist, you distort, you know, you put facts in the story.

    And Newbold quit earlier this year. Jaeger was #1 in the mini draft (therefore the best that year).
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #32
      Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

      Originally posted by jeemak
      Wanker!

      I was hoping to use it in a bit of a FB battle I started on Thursday night. I don't often battle on Facey anymore, and these 'tid-bits' verified would have helped my cause significantly.
      All true, I couldn't resist. Battle away.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27654

        #33
        Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

        Originally posted by Greystache
        It's all true, it comes down to how it's framed.

        Us moving on Cooney and Higgins as premiers = a successful club demanding certain standards even from its leaders. Us after finishing 15th = club in crisis

        We could *!*!*!*! up a lot in the next two years and get credit for seeing angles weaker clubs can't. Hawthorn have but it won't be for a number of bad seasons before they get slammed for it.

        We have to win multiple flags though. Otherwise we will have wasted a Generation. Apparantly it's 10.30am on our premiership clock and the window is gaping. Two won't do it. It has to be 3+ with this group.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7363

          #34
          Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Two won't do it. It has to be 3+ with this group.
          Nice. I am pretty happy with one to be truthful. Never thought it would happen...if we fall off a cliff now because the players have had a l-o-n-g celebratory period, well you know what - I wont blame them.
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • The Underdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2007
            • 6871

            #35
            Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

            Originally posted by mjp
            Nice. I am pretty happy with one to be truthful. Never thought it would happen...if we fall off a cliff now because the players have had a l-o-n-g celebratory period, well you know what - I wont blame them.
            I'm planning on celebrating the premiership at all our games next year. Results be damned.
            Park that car
            Drop that phone
            Sleep on the floor
            Dream about me

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14950

              #36
              Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

              Originally posted by mjp
              And the poor old Gold Coast. Now they have 4x top 10 picks which is apparently bad in the new world?
              I think what the picks represent is seen as poor - their ability to retain players.
              Queensland football has a problem and the Lions have arguably been worse at retention than the Suns.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14950

                #37
                Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                The other thing about Hawthorn trading away their main draft picks is that they don't seem to have much quality from their last few drafts either. That spells big cliff approaching.
                They tried to trade away some of their kids too for picks to get the O'Meara deal over the line - Hartung & Whitecross for starters.

                Geelong is the club I think are far more likely headed for a cliff though - Bartel and Enright this year, Mackie, Taylor and Lonergan the next year or two (and they have one decent young KPP on their list as far as I can tell - the lesser Kolo brother).
                Caddy for not much, first rounder out, Thuoy is ok but not a significant difference maker and I'm not sold on their midfield depth.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18029

                  #38
                  Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  They tried to trade away some of their kids too for picks to get the O'Meara deal over the line - Hartung & Whitecross for starters.

                  Geelong is the club I think are far more likely headed for a cliff though - Bartel and Enright this year, Mackie, Taylor and Lonergan the next year or two (and they have one decent young KPP on their list as far as I can tell - the lesser Kolo brother).
                  Caddy for not much, first rounder out, Thuoy is ok but not a significant difference maker and I'm not sold on their midfield depth.
                  Danger surely can't have as dominant a year as 2016. His form papered over a lot of cracks.

                  If he drops a few %, I can see their midfield getting torched. Would love to finally beat them.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6401

                    #39
                    Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                    A bit off topic - but just the talk of CEO's resigning has reminded me.

                    Did anyone find it a bit odd - that in all the many post grand final speeches, including at the best and fairest night - from Bevo and PG, at no point (from what I can recall) did either of them mention David Stevenson or Brett Montgomery at any point.

                    Will Minson was the only person on Best and Fairest night to mention Monty - as far as I can recall.

                    Just stuck out a bit to me....anyways...sorry to be off topic.

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                    • Ozza
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6401

                      #40
                      Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Danger surely can't have as dominant a year as 2016. His form papered over a lot of cracks.

                      If he drops a few %, I can see their midfield getting torched. Would love to finally beat them.
                      I think last year, they could have done with 2 Cam Guthrie's. As he is their best quick small defender, but also helps their midfield.
                      I guess they are banking on Tuohy filling that need in defence, and having Guthrie as a full time mid. But then there is the hole left by Caddy.

                      Seems strange to say when they've got Selwood and Danger - but I think I agree with you - that they are a mid or two short.

                      Their other issue is that Mackie looks gone, and Enright leaving will hit them very very hard. Pretty hard work replacing (arguably) the best half back of the modern era - who makes all of the others look good.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44634

                        #41
                        Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        A bit off topic - but just the talk of CEO's resigning has reminded me.

                        Did anyone find it a bit odd - that in all the many post grand final speeches, including at the best and fairest night - from Bevo and PG, at no point (from what I can recall) did either of them mention David Stevenson or Brett Montgomery at any point.

                        Will Minson was the only person on Best and Fairest night to mention Monty - as far as I can recall.

                        Just stuck out a bit to me....anyways...sorry to be off topic.
                        Smorgo got a lot of mentions by the media.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          A bit off topic - but just the talk of CEO's resigning has reminded me.

                          Did anyone find it a bit odd - that in all the many post grand final speeches, including at the best and fairest night - from Bevo and PG, at no point (from what I can recall) did either of them mention David Stevenson or Brett Montgomery at any point.
                          Good point Ozza. Bevo gave praise to his assistants, including Monty, at the post grand final function, but not a lot. Otherwise it's absolute silence. As for PG, lol.

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                          • Ozza
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6401

                            #43
                            Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                            Originally posted by Giansiraccuser
                            Good point Ozza. Bevo gave praise to his assistants, including Monty, at the post grand final function, but not a lot. Otherwise it's absolute silence. As for PG, lol.
                            Ok - well at least Monty got a mention at the post GF function then.

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                            • Scraggers
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 3565

                              #44
                              Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                              Originally posted by Ozza
                              A bit off topic - but just the talk of CEO's resigning has reminded me.

                              Did anyone find it a bit odd - that in all the many post grand final speeches, including at the best and fairest night - from Bevo and PG, at no point (from what I can recall) did either of them mention David Stevenson or Brett Montgomery at any point.

                              Will Minson was the only person on Best and Fairest night to mention Monty - as far as I can recall.

                              Just stuck out a bit to me....anyways...sorry to be off topic.
                              Brett Montgomery got an invite Grand Final eve to Peter Gordon's house didn't he? I'm sure I read that somewhere

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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3926

                                #45
                                Re: Why I don't understand, can't understand and wont ever understand.

                                Originally posted by Scraggers
                                Brett Montgomery got an invite Grand Final eve to Peter Gordon's house didn't he? I'm sure I read that somewhere
                                I hadn't read that - its a nice touch if he did

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