Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21825

    #46
    Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    In: Adams (tall defender), Dunkley/Smith (hard mid/forward), Campbell (structural change)
    Out: Morris (tall defender), Jong (hard mid/forward), Daniel (structural change)
    What was wrong with our structure when we didn't play well and it seemed our plan and set-up practically got us over the line? Sure, bring in a defender like for like, and bolster the ruck if we've a ruck who's ready, but don't make structural changes after round one when we actually won well.

    Friday night saw one coach playing a tactical game of chess, versus another playing a strategic game. The latter's team won by 14 points.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5113

      #47
      Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

      I'd normally be inclined to bring Campbell in, however I don't think ruck was the issue. Boyd competed well. We did get slaughtered in the clearances but that was down to their midfielders playing much better than ours. we have hardly had a dominant ruckman so it isn't like this is anything new.

      I think they'll bring in Adams which I think is a mistake. I would bring Dunkley in to add another to our rotations. Zaine and Fletcher are enough down back with Biggs and Wood in support.

      Daniel had a shocker but stays, Jong still offers enough so stays, no one else is really in contention to be dropped.

      So Dunkley in for Morris.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Bullies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 1807

        #48
        Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

        Originally posted by soupaman
        I'd normally be inclined to bring Campbell in, however I don't think ruck was the issue. Boyd competed well. We did get slaughtered in the clearances but that was down to their midfielders playing much better than ours. we have hardly had a dominant ruckman so it isn't like this is anything new.

        I think they'll bring in Adams which I think is a mistake. I would bring Dunkley in to add another to our rotations. Zaine and Fletcher are enough down back with Biggs and Wood in support.

        Daniel had a shocker but stays, Jong still offers enough so stays, no one else is really in contention to be dropped.

        So Dunkley in for Morris.
        Adams was ordinary in the 2's Friday night. Dickson also looked a fair way off as well which is expected. Smith played well and I think they missed his pressure on Friday night keeping the ball in the forward line. It seemed to get out a bit easier than last year in the forward 50 although it was the first game and they were spent from the pace of the game.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15445

          #49
          Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

          Originally posted by Bullies
          Adams was ordinary in the 2's Friday night. Dickson also looked a fair way off as well which is expected. Smith played well and I think they missed his pressure on Friday night keeping the ball in the forward line. It seemed to get out a bit easier than last year in the forward 50 although it was the first game and they were spent from the pace of the game.
          We had 25 scoring shots from 44 entries so forward pressure was not an issue.

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5113

            #50
            Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

            Originally posted by Bullies
            Adams was ordinary in the 2's Friday night. Dickson also looked a fair way off as well which is expected. Smith played well and I think they missed his pressure on Friday night keeping the ball in the forward line. It seemed to get out a bit easier than last year in the forward 50 although it was the first game and they were spent from the pace of the game.
            I considered Smith but I see him as more of a forward than Dunkley who is more capable in the middle. Seeing as our forwardline is already pretty stacked and our midfield was poor I went for Dunkley.

            With the potential of JJ and Murphy rotating through up forward effectively Smith and McLean are fighting for the only remaining spot, which is possibly taken by Dickson once fit.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6401

              #51
              Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

              Originally posted by always right
              If Daniel is out, I'll bear my arse in Barkly St.
              I'll be there with you.
              Thought he played very well on Friday night aside from a couple of errors. Good things happen more often than not when he gets the ball, and some of his tap ons and clean hands off the ground open the door for us to break away.

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6401

                #52
                Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Done, and I will avoid Barkly St!

                That was his worst game in his career to date. I don't think it's a certainty he plays.
                Worst game in his career?

                Have another watch.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14617

                  #53
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                  I'd be happy to replace Crameri with Smith. Looked well off the pace(which is understandable) and would benefit from a few magoo games.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10142

                    #54
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                    In: Adams

                    Out: Morris

                    Really feel for Dale; pig of a thing to get injured right at the end like that, and he looked in the best physical shape of his career.

                    Calls to drop anyone else are a little premature with no VFL form to back it up. I could live with Jong for Smith or Dunkley, but don't think it's begging to be done.

                    Anyone else not super enamoured with Trav?
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13235

                      #55
                      Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      In: Adams

                      Out: Morris

                      Really feel for Dale; pig of a thing to get injured right at the end like that, and he looked in the best physical shape of his career.

                      Calls to drop anyone else are a little premature with no VFL form to back it up. I could live with Jong for Smith or Dunkley, but don't think it's begging to be done.

                      Anyone else not super enamoured with Trav?
                      I wouldn't include a tall for Morris as he hasn't been playing tall for some time and going by your logic there is no way Adams has any preseason form to back up his selection. I think we'll see Easton move into the Morris role and Cordy will play 2IC to Roberts. I'd just bring in Campbell for Morris.

                      Happy to wait and see with Trav we'll know more in 4-6.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10142

                        #56
                        Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                        Originally posted by 1eyedog
                        I wouldn't include a tall for Morris as he hasn't been playing tall for some time and going by your logic there is no way Adams has any preseason form to back up his selection. I think we'll see Easton move into the Morris role and Cordy will play 2IC to Roberts. I'd just bring in Campbell for Morris.

                        Happy to wait and see with Trav we'll know more in 4-6.
                        I don't really consider Adams to be a traditional key position tall, his best football is more as an Easton-lite intercept player. Obviously someone has to come in and he's the best option.

                        Who would you have come in?
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6401

                          #57
                          Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                          Think we missed Clay Smith's tenacity.
                          Jong can be easily replaced by having Bontempelli go into the middle (barely played inside midfield at all Friday night). Jongy just doesn't get enough footy. Yeah he had 14 tackles, but I think a lot of that was due to being second to the ball.

                          Out: Jong, Morris
                          In: C.Smith, Adams.

                          I'd like to bring in Campbell, but don't think having Boyd and Cloke primarily forward is good for us.
                          Cloke was good on Friday night - but I'm not convinced that the team is better with the current forward set up.

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13235

                            #58
                            Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            I don't really consider Adams to be a traditional key position tall, his best football is more as an Easton-lite intercept player. Obviously someone has to come in and he's the best option.

                            Who would you have come in?
                            I'm not sure I keep changing my mind. Agree re. Adams but I think if he comes in Cordy has to go and I'm not sure I'm up for that. I'd move Cordy back and just bring in Campbell for Morris as I don't think Boyd is ready for a solo primary ruck role.

                            Adams may very well come in though.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 18029

                              #59
                              Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                              We need more assistance inside, so I'd bring Dunkley in. He can also go forward & provide nuisance value.

                              Not sure what to do with the ruck scenario but I hate the idea of Boyd, Campbell & Cloke all in the same team. Going ultra tall just doesn't work anymore unless the players are super mobile.

                              Hurry up & get buff, Timmy English!
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11245

                                #60
                                Re: Match Committee - Round 2 2017 vs Sydney Swans

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                We need more assistance inside, so I'd bring Dunkley in. He can also go forward & provide nuisance value.

                                Not sure what to do with the ruck scenario but I hate the idea of Boyd, Campbell & Cloke all in the same team. Going ultra tall just doesn't work anymore unless the players are super mobile.

                                Hurry up & get buff, Timmy English!
                                Watching the Freo game last night and seeing Sandilands dominate around the ground but Griffin spudding it up has me agreeing with you. The extra mid will be more valuable against Sydney's elite mids than the extra ruckman.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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