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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27655

    Re: Jason McCartney

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    No reason why he shouldn't be considered but it's more about meeting with player managers, working on a list profile and plotting out the next number of years rather than just assessing talent. Perhaps that doesn't suit him.

    Dalrymple's role in talent identification and acquisition is a different set of skills to the hard nosed negotiating and making difficult calls that Jmac's role called for I would have thought.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14624

      Re: Jason McCartney

      Why would you want to move Dal away from recruiting, crazy talk.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27655

        Re: Jason McCartney

        Originally posted by chef
        Why would you want to move Dal away from recruiting, crazy talk.
        Exactly. It's only the government that promotes its employees into positions where they have no idea what they are doing.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14313

          Re: Jason McCartney

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Exactly. It's only the government that promotes its employees into positions where they have no idea what they are doing.
          Wrong !! I work for one of the two big grocery companies and my god the people promoted are about 18,casual and have no experience in anything, then try and tell people of 50 that have been in the industry over 10 years what to do.
          I have worked in both private and government run companies and I will tell you the government has better promotion chances if you have experience, private companies want kids who have no idea and will just say yes to everything. The managers and immediate co ordinators are the most inept people I've ever worked under.
          Bring back the biff

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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5573

            Re: Jason McCartney

            Originally posted by ledge
            Wrong !! I work for one of the two big grocery companies and my god the people promoted are about 18,casual and have no experience in anything, then try and tell people of 50 that have been in the industry over 10 years what to do.
            It is actually bureaucracy that promote to the level of incompetence and the all the big companies match the public service in that regard.

            Lots of rules to prevent people who are good at their job from actually just doing their job.

            On the position of Dalrymple, we should simply be making sure he has no reason to want to leave and he should never be promoted away from what he is really at the cutting edge for expertise.

            Happy to give him any title that makes him feel valued, but please keep him in charge of recruiting while he is doing such a fantastic job.
            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              Re: Jason McCartney

              Why fix something that’s not broken ? Darymple’s been brilliant in the last few years ( 1st year aside) .

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27655

                Re: Jason McCartney

                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                It is actually bureaucracy that promote to the level of incompetence and the all the big companies match the public service in that regard.

                Lots of rules to prevent people who are good at their job from actually just doing their job.

                On the position of Dalrymple, we should simply be making sure he has no reason to want to leave and he should never be promoted away from what he is really at the cutting edge for expertise.

                Happy to give him any title that makes him feel valued, but please keep him in charge of recruiting while he is doing such a fantastic job.
                Oh yes! There is a Frontline episode called Eye Disease that addresses exactly that point. They give Mike Moore a new title to keep him happy-Executive Producer but he keeps conflating the acronym (EP) in his head with ELP and constantly refers to himself as the "Extra Long Penis". Great EP of a great show!
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6932

                  Re: Jason McCartney

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  Oh yes! There is a Frontline episode called Eye Disease that addresses exactly that point. They give Mike Moore a new title to keep him happy-Executive Producer but he keeps conflating the acronym (EP) in his head with ELP and constantly refers to himself as the "Extra Long Penis". Great ep of a great show!
                  Amazing show. Sad that Current Affairs shows are now actually less professional than Frontline.

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11844

                    Re: Jason McCartney

                    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                    Amazing show. Sad that Current Affairs shows are now actually less professional than Frontline.
                    Were they ever really more professional?
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7372

                      Re: Jason McCartney

                      I don't understand why we wouldn't give Dalrymple a shot. Showing good skills in one position shouldn't preclude you from being promoted into another position should you have ambitions in that area...

                      I have no idea whether he is interested but if he is, shouldn't we be giving him a chance rather than telling him to keep living life inside his current cardboard box? Preventing people from challenging themselves is one surefire way to trigger them to move into another organisation who will offer them that chance...
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5573

                        Re: Jason McCartney

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        I don't understand why we wouldn't give Dalrymple a shot. Showing good skills in one position shouldn't preclude you from being promoted into another position should you have ambitions in that area...

                        I have no idea whether he is interested but if he is, shouldn't we be giving him a chance rather than telling him to keep living life inside his current cardboard box? Preventing people from challenging themselves is one surefire way to trigger them to move into another organisation who will offer them that chance...
                        I don't disagree with this, however it would need to be Dalrymple wanting the move and at the very least, I would want him to have an oversight of the recruiting side of the operation.
                        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10161

                          Re: Jason McCartney

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                          I don't disagree with this, however it would need to be Dalrymple wanting the move and at the very least, I would want him to have an oversight of the recruiting side of the operation.
                          How would he go making tough decisions about players he's recruited to the club? Could his judgments about players and their potential to play certain roles lead to imbalances in the list?

                          If he's interested I think he interviews for the role but there's a few matters we'd want to be comfortable with, along with him being the most credentialed candidate before proceeding.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18033

                            Re: Jason McCartney

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Any chance Dalrymple is going to be given a promotion?
                            Damn.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66742

                              Re: Jason McCartney

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              Damn.
                              Probably the reason he left
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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44662

                                Re: Jason McCartney

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Probably the reason he left
                                Are you saying he applied for the list managers role and was overlooked?
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