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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27656

    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    They must have problems counting to 5 then. Sometimes they give 30 metres, sometimes 60, or anywhere in between....

    The varying distances meted out is why I asked. The answer makes sense but I'm not sure that the umpires always do.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11269

      Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

      Gowers seems to start games well and then fades out - his fitness is clearly lacking if you watch him closely, but this in itself is a good sign because when the players are fresh and the kitchen is hot Gowers is typically in the thick of the action.

      He's got some obvious flaws but he's growing on me as a hard at it, strong leading/marking, goal-a-game player.
      W00F!

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66785

        Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        Gowers seems to start games well and then fades out - his fitness is clearly lacking if you watch him closely, but this in itself is a good sign because when the players are fresh and the kitchen is hot Gowers is typically in the thick of the action.

        He's got some obvious flaws but he's growing on me as a hard at it, strong leading/marking, goal-a-game player.
        One of only a handful of players that have achieved that so far this season.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15463

          Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

          Originally posted by bornadog
          One of only a handful of players that have achieved that so far this season.
          How many players are there in the comp that are pretty much purely forwards? Wouldn't be many.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66785

            Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

            Originally posted by Mantis
            How many players are there in the comp that are pretty much purely forwards? Wouldn't be many.
            Well they aren't kicking goals every week. 18 teams, maybe 3 per team, say 54 and Gowers a first year player with 7 games to his name.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

              I think Billy can be better than a goal a game player. This year he has gone 1-1-1-1-2-2-2. Hopefully a break out 4 or more goal isn't far away. He can easily be a 35-40 goal player for us this year. He has also had 5 direct goal assists in the past 3 weeks. If he can be kicking/directly assisting 50+ goals, he will be very valuable.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14972

                Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                I think Billy can be better than a goal a game player. This year he has gone 1-1-1-1-2-2-2. Hopefully a break out 4 or more goal isn't far away. He can easily be a 35-40 goal player for us this year. He has also had 5 direct goal assists in the past 3 weeks. If he can be kicking/directly assisting 50+ goals, he will be very valuable.
                A goal a game player will likely win out goal kicking award this year - and would have likely won it last year.

                We should all be celebrating the fact we've managed to snag a solid player, a goal kicker which we lack, with a rookie pick. He's shown far more than many of our rookies have over the years and it's his first year on the list.

                Not to mention he is very far from the finished product. Since round 3 he's above par for accuracy too which again is something we sorely lack.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • Bulldog4life
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 9607

                  Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                  Bill has certainly surprised me this year with his goal kicking nous, marking and aggressive nature. Plus there is huge upside for him as well as he gets more pre seasons into himself. A good pick up. Plus I am enjoying watching him play.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27656

                    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    Bill has certainly surprised me this year with his goal kicking nous, marking and aggressive nature. Plus there is huge upside for him as well as he gets more pre seasons into himself. A good pick up. Plus I am enjoying watching him play.
                    That's a good call. I hadn't really thought bout because footy is played for sheep stations and you get a it caught up in it but I do like watching Billy play.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • soupman
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5113

                      Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      That's a good call. I hadn't really thought bout because footy is played for sheep stations and you get a it caught up in it but I do like watching Billy play.
                      Completely agree. Even when he stuffs up I like it cause he does it with such enthusiasm. When he played on against Carlton I wasn't even mad, it was hilarious.
                      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4240

                        Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                        We are getting good value out of Gilly Bowers. It's not fair on him, but I remain unconvinced at this level, clearly he has a nose for goal which I love, but can't trust him yet. That said, have a lot of respect for his work rate and appetite for the contest, doing plenty right.

                        Can anyone recall if Jason Watts was any good? He was an unlikely leading goal kicker circa 94/95 if I recall correctly. In my memory he wasn't great, but did his job in a team lacking firepower. I was just a kid though, so would love to hear if there are any memories, or comparison to Gowers?
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27656

                          Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                          Originally posted by soupaman
                          Completely agree. Even when he stuffs up I like it cause he does it with such enthusiasm. When he played on against Carlton I wasn't even mad, it was hilarious.
                          I expected him to play on. He was one player away from being goal side with no opponent between him and the sticks and running at top place. The idea was good the instinct to take the game on was there and that situation works out to the attacking player's advantage more than the defender's.

                          And Billy is only a 50/50 chance with a set shot from that distance. If the same thing happened I reckon Billy would do the same thing again.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                            Originally posted by SonofScray
                            We are getting good value out of Gilly Bowers. It's not fair on him, but I remain unconvinced at this level, clearly he has a nose for goal which I love, but can't trust him yet. That said, have a lot of respect for his work rate and appetite for the contest, doing plenty right.

                            Can anyone recall if Jason Watts was any good? He was an unlikely leading goal kicker circa 94/95 if I recall correctly. In my memory he wasn't great, but did his job in a team lacking firepower. I was just a kid though, so would love to hear if there are any memories, or comparison to Gowers?
                            Watts was a strange one. He had a couple of solid years with us as a no frills small/mid defender who seemed an honest trier with a modest skill level. Then in 1996, a horrid year, he was thrown forward (presumably in desperation) and he turned out to be a leading forward who could steal a crafty goal in a Tory Dickson kind of way. He kicked over 40 goals for the year, but Paul Hudson came the next year and he hardly got another game.

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                            • ratsmac
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2009
                              • 3975

                              Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              I expected him to play on. He was one player away from being goal side with no opponent between him and the sticks and running at top place. The idea was good the instinct to take the game on was there and that situation works out to the attacking player's advantage more than the defender's.

                              And Billy is only a 50/50 chance with a set shot from that distance. If the same thing happened I reckon Billy would do the same thing again.
                              He just needs to learn the JJ goose step to get the defender off his arse next time.
                              They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                              Brian Fantana.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27656

                                Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                                Originally posted by ratsmac
                                He just needs to learn the JJ goose step to get the defender off his arse next time.
                                Yeah, he basically got 3/4s of what he was trying to do wrong, it's just the 1/4 he got wrong looked really, really bad.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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