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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66828

    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    He's not in the same class, but does anybody else see a little bit of Jim Edmond in the way Gowers plays?
    Yeah I do. Jimmy was a pretty good mark for his size as is Gowers, and the way he goes into packs does remind me a bit of Jim.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27656

      Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
      He's not in the same class, but does anybody else see a little bit of Jim Edmond in the way Gowers plays?
      I was thinking that the other day. Edmond was a lot stronger but Billy has a lot of similiar attributes. I could see Billy being right up in Gubby Allen's face that time Allen had the World's all time biggest brain fart and passed the ball to Simon Beasley in the goal square when the whole idea was to keep the ball away from the opposition gun full forward and the goalsquare. The way Jimmy Edmond was doing.

      Originally posted by hujsh
      He also goes up for pack marks all the time. He goes the mark of the year route and always drops them but regardless he still goes up
      Are you talking about Billy or Stringer? Stringer spent a couple of years trying to take the mark of the year after he dropped one against st Kilda.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11849

        Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

        Originally posted by Twodogs



        Are you talking about Billy or Stringer? Stringer spent a couple of years trying to take the mark of the year after he dropped one against st Kilda.
        Stringer. Gowers is solid and holds his marks but I wouldn't consider him to have a massive leap to get up on top of the pack
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14340

          Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

          Originally posted by hujsh
          Disagree with the bolded. Stringer is quick, quicker than Gowers. We all know it. If that was Stringer playing on in the Carlton game he'd have had the space to get the kick off at goal.

          He also goes up for pack marks all the time. He goes the mark of the year route and always drops them but regardless he still goes up
          When Stringer was younger he did it all but the last two years he waddles when chasing, he hangs out the back and his athleticism has dropped a lot in my view.
          Gowers is a couple of years younger and looks like he wants to be an AFL player , Stringer takes it for granted.
          Bring back the biff

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11276

            Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

            I hope media street can stay away from Billy. He's going well and improving each game but he needs to keep working as hard as possible to get the best out of his career. He's not the finished article by a long stretch.

            Very happy with the rate of improvement so far and I hope it can continue - he'll get himself a much deserved new contract and list upgrade if he does.
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27656

              Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

              Originally posted by Sedat
              I hope media street can stay away from Billy. He's going well and improving each game but he needs to keep working as hard as possible to get the best out of his career. He's not the finished article by a long stretch.

              Very happy with the rate of improvement so far and I hope it can continue - he'll get himself a much deserved new contract and list upgrade if he does.
              Too late, he was on The Sunday Footy show a couple of weekends back. Or the c7 version.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3966

                Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                Gowers is an inexperienced player on the upward trajectory. He's rough around the edges. Makes loads of mistakes (double 50 anyone?), isn't a great shot at goal.

                I think given his apparent determination and work ethic, he'll become a decent player. But not long after Stringer was drafted he was an AA and most of us thought he was a once in a generation player. Stringer has 5x the natural talent of Gowers.

                We didn't win that trade, nor did Essendon. Schache is also behind Gowers at the moment.

                Stringer is a disappointment. Gowers looks like being a surprise, and that Shache isn't a disappointment.

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                • Testekill
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 2327

                  Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                  Originally posted by MrMahatma
                  Gowers is an inexperienced player on the upward trajectory. He's rough around the edges. Makes loads of mistakes (double 50 anyone?), isn't a great shot at goal.
                  .
                  Second 50 was Lipinski

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                    Originally posted by Testekill
                    Second 50 was Lipinski
                    Yep, can't stand that Gowers is still wearing flack for a 'double 50' he was only partly responsible for.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27656

                      Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                      What was the second fifty actually for?
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66828

                        Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        What was the second fifty actually for?
                        He ran past the man on the mark within 10 metres
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                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27656

                          Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          He ran past the man on the mark within 10 metres

                          Mustn't run through the exclusion zone. We are still a million miles ahead on those fiftys after JJ ran through Tom Scully's in the middle of the ground late in the prelim.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Testekill
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 2327

                            Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                            The 10m exclusion zone is far too heavy a punishment; it should be 25m but you can't even trust the umpires to figure out 10 metres let alone 25.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27656

                              Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                              Originally posted by Testekill
                              The 10m exclusion zone is far too heavy a punishment; it should be 25m but you can't even trust the umpires to figure out 10 metres let alone 25.

                              I asked about umpires estimating how long 50 metres was and whether they trained in depth perception or whatever it that allows you to guess distances and was told, for what it is worth, that each cross section of cut grass is ten metres so the umpire just has to count off five of them.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Welcome to the Westernbulldogs Billy Gowers

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                I asked about umpires estimating how long 50 metres was and whether they trained in depth perception or whatever it that allows you to guess distances and was told, for what it is worth, that each cross section of cut grass is ten metres so the umpire just has to count off five of them.
                                They must have problems counting to 5 then. Sometimes they give 30 metres, sometimes 60, or anywhere in between....

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