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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13188

    #31
    Originally posted by doggies ftw
    Don’t think we’ll make many changes based on that and Bramble was okay, Cleary started poorly but actually turned it around and had a decent impact in the end and same as McNeil.

    So based on last night those 3 were fine after some early errors - BUT they’re very clearly the 3 weak links in this side and they’re going to be fine against shit teams that let you run around and do what you want but I just feel all 3 of them absolutely go to water against decent sides.

    I get not everyone can be a star and you need role players but I don’t think these 3 are solid enough in high pressure games to keep persisting with. Bramble is not particularly good at anything, pretty poor defensively, runs fast but usually aimlessly and turnover merchant. Cleary actually can defend which is nice but his body is still no where near it, not particularly strong overhead and whilst he should be a good kick he also can’t be trusted.

    McNeil does so much right so it’s frustrating, works super hard, competes & pressures but he kills us offensively, one of the worst finishers in the comp which is one thing but it’s also the way he continuously breaks down offensive chains - every single time he gets the ball on the wing he takes 15 seconds too scared to make a decision before finally throwing it on the boot to a contest, if not straight turning it over.

    We clearly don’t have many other options in these positions but I think it’s time to try something to find a better balance whilst we have some easier games.

    Garcias not exactly the cleanest user either although I think he’s better than McNeil, or at the very least more decisive. Hes not exactly what we’re screaming for in a small forward but I’d be tempted to throw him in and just go full 2016 style chaos ball inside 50 - Darcy & Naughty the marking targets with a mix of West, Garcia, Harmes, Kennedy etc at ground level. Not really a hell of a lot of class there but the opposition is going to have a bad time when the ball hits the ground and we know the midfield will give them enough supply to just cause carnage at ground level

    The Backlines a tough one with only really JJ to return. I think having Freijah & Williams spend more time there has been important - we just needed some composure and they both provide it. I like the two tall set up best but I tend to agree with above that Buss is hybrid enough to play Clearys role and we don’t really lose anything. I’d be tempted to try this for a few weeks and see how it goes. I don’t want another Jones or Gardner type though, unless match ups permit it.

    I don’t think Jacques is ready and backline is a bit harder than forward to come in underdone because your mistakes can really pay. But in saying that I think he’s deserves a shot considering the potential reward is big. And realistically the one that can really make a difference here in the short term is Selwood if he can pick up the speed quick, he’d be perfect to cover Clearys role.

    So long story short, I think we need to try and plug the 3 weakest links in our team and we do have some options for it over the coming weeks - any mix of Buss, Sellwood, Jacques, JJ, Harmes, Garcia in for Bramble, Cleary, McNeil.

    McNeil can be super sub, he’s actually pretty decent at that role seems to play better late. Hynes id prefer to play full games at VFL level, and Dolan I think has shown enough to warrant a starting 22 spot - really like him a lot
    No doubt that Bramble, Cleary and McNeill are fine when we're beating up on a bottom 8 team. The problem lies with the absolute shit the bed moments all three players have when we play genuinely decent teams.

    In a perfect world they all have to go.

    Cleary for JJ is a no brainer. Lobb is killing it we're fine for intercepts / spoils etc and Cleary is not a beast in this area anyway.

    When Chompers comes back in McNeil is under the pump as well.

    JJ and Chomps in
    Cleary and McNeil out let's stop mucking around.

    Keen for top 4 so so taking a more ruthless position.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • doggies ftw
      Draftee
      • Dec 2013
      • 590

      #32
      Originally posted by 1eyedog

      No doubt that Bramble, Cleary and McNeill are fine when we're beating up on a bottom 8 team. The problem lies with the absolute shit the bed moments all three players have when we play genuinely decent teams.

      In a perfect world they all have to go.

      Cleary for JJ is a no brainer. Lobb is killing it we're fine for intercepts / spoils etc and Cleary is not a beast in this area anyway.

      When Chompers comes back in McNeil is under the pump as well.

      JJ and Chomps in
      Cleary and McNeil out let's stop mucking around.

      Keen for top 4 so so taking a more ruthless position.
      7 mins into the VFL game…. Yeah Sellwood will be taking that Cleary spot ASAP id think. I give it the week after next before Bevo pulls the pin on his new shiny toy.

      AFL ready body and exactly the type of player we need

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15207

        #33
        Normally we are conservative when bringing back players with concussion. My guess is Harmes is out another week. Was it reported anywhere how he sustained the concussion?

        IN: JJ
        OUT: Bramble
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10110

          #34
          Originally posted by azabob
          Was it reported anywhere how he sustained the concussion?
          Presumably a result of using those chompers of his.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • whythelongface
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 4381

            #35
            Originally posted by 1eyedog

            No doubt that Bramble, Cleary and McNeill are fine when we're beating up on a bottom 8 team. The problem lies with the absolute shit the bed moments all three players have when we play genuinely decent teams.

            In a perfect world they all have to go.

            Cleary for JJ is a no brainer. Lobb is killing it we're fine for intercepts / spoils etc and Cleary is not a beast in this area anyway.

            When Chompers comes back in McNeil is under the pump as well.

            JJ and Chomps in
            Cleary and McNeil out let's stop mucking around.

            Keen for top 4 so so taking a more ruthless position.
            who is Chomps?

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            • josie
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2012
              • 4400

              #36
              Originally posted by whythelongface

              who is Chomps?
              Harmes. Biggest teeth in afl or close to it!!
              Josie :)

              Our day will come
              And we'll have everything.
              We'll share the joy
              Just like '54 again.

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                #37
                In:
                Harmes, JJ, Garcia (sub)

                Out:
                Hynes, Bramble, McNeil

                Not getting caught up in McNeil and Bramble being okay against St.Kilda - who we feast on. I want us picking a team that can compete with finals sides. Cleary is a watch, but right now I'd like to see if he can get to the next level in his game through continuity. Plus he's 191cms and gives us more flexibility than Bramble does.

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                • Rusty12
                  Draftee
                  • Dec 2024
                  • 505

                  #38
                  Garcia, has to play. Sure, you need balance but you can't have too many blokes that can win the footy. He also plays with a cadence that is very Bevo, and fits into how we shape the ball better than everyone, bar out top 5.

                  JJ and Harmes, picking themselves right now, as long as they are 100%.

                  McNeil to sub on balance, we have so many mids that can play forward, and I would prefer Hynes and Dolan get full games in the VFL.

                  Freijah, Truck, Sanders, Harmes and Davidson all rotating through the wing.

                  Khamis, the genuine swing man, 3rd tall forward/defender and 2nd/3rd Ruck option.

                  If JJ does not get up, Bramble to start, Cleary to bench.

                  If Hamres does not get up, Sanders to start wing, Trelor HF and Dolan to the bench.

                  Backs:
                  Lobb - JOD - Truck - Freijah - JJ - Dale
                  Outside:
                  Harmes - Davidson
                  Inside:
                  Libba - Bont - Richards
                  Ruck:
                  English
                  Forwards:
                  Naughton - Darcy - Mennedy - West - VDM - Sanders

                  INT: Khamis - Bramble - Trelor - Garcia
                  Sub: McNeil

                  Bubble:
                  Jaques - Busss - Gallagher - Baker - Duyrea - Poulter - Scott - Hynes - Coffield - Dolan - Cleary Jones
                  Not in the Mix:
                  Smith - Gardner- Lennedy
                  Injured:
                  Croft - Arty

                  Ins: Garcia - JJ - Harmes
                  Out: Hynes - Dolan - Cleary

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44304

                    #39
                    Just on Harmes, he probably con't do contact training until Thursdays session so he could very well miss another.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66115

                      #40
                      I watched the replay of the whole game and paid attention to Cleary and Bramble. Cleary had two turnovers and Bramble none. I don't believe they will be dropped, however, I expect JJ will come in and Harmes should, but based on GVGjr post he maynot. Therefore, could be one change only and most likely the unlucky Hynes.
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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10087

                        #41
                        I thought Bramble was pretty good? Don’t get the angst on him at all.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • Bulldogs201616
                          Rookie List
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 123

                          #42
                          In Harmes JJ
                          Out Hynes (unfortunately) Bramble

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15321

                            #43
                            With Sydney to come off a 5 day break do you think it’s likely either Libba or Treloar, or maybe both get a rest this week?

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                            • Bumper Bulldogs
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2926

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              With Sydney to come off a 5 day break do you think it’s likely either Libba or Treloar, or maybe both get a rest this week?
                              I wouldn’t but I would manage Treloar on minutes and manage Libba by resting forward
                              BB.

                              Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44304

                                #45
                                In Harmes, Coffield, Busslinger and Jaques
                                Out Cleary
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