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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18820

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    It's interesting to watch how some in the media have their motives and integrity questioned when they report something we don't want to read and then embrace them when they say something that works our way.

    I do think he has this one right though.
    It's almost like there's another, more important reason they're toying with the populous and getting the most air out of a factually tenuous position G!
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14537

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Unless hes signing a contract this summer just sounds like hes seeing out his contract at the Dogs. Doing what Dunkley did.
      The curse is dead.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by chef
        Unless hes signing a contract this summer just sounds like hes seeing out his contract at the Dogs. Doing what Dunkley did.
        That ended up brilliantly… He should re-sign now or move him on. Some nothing picks next year or the year after ain’t going to do much to help the list.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65834

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          It's interesting to watch how some in the media have their motives and integrity questioned when they report something we don't want to read and then embrace them when they say something that works our way.

          I do think he has this one right though.
          The first was a rumour with nothing to back it up, the second was quoting a player manager.
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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18820

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by chef
            Unless hes signing a contract this summer just sounds like hes seeing out his contract at the Dogs. Doing what Dunkley did.
            Hmm. Hope not.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5535

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              That ended up brilliantly… He should re-sign now or move him on. Some nothing picks next year or the year after ain’t going to do much to help the list.
              Yeh it screams of "I'm not going to ask for a trade, but I would quite like a trade if YOU chose to do that".

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              • Boots
                Rookie List
                • Nov 2020
                • 431

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Hard to see how he’s still on the list in 2025. We’d better find some new mids somewhere.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  Yeh it screams of "I'm not going to ask for a trade, but I would quite like a trade if YOU chose to do that".
                  He could end the speculation yesterday if he wanted to. And make all the journos look like fools in the process. Perhaps he chooses to shut this all down after his review today. But until he does, I’m thinking this isn’t over this year. All he needs to do is tell his Insta followers he wants to stay for the long term and is trying to work out a long term extension. If he doesn’t want the circus that’s happening to him by the media now, then shut them all up and make them look silly with simply one Insta post.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7279

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    He could end the speculation yesterday if he wanted to.
                    But why does he have to do that?

                    #1: Bailey Smith being in the news is good for Bailey Smith...let the speculation roll on and keep him f+c in the media even when not playing...just smart business in his business.

                    #2: He doesn't actually need to say anything - he has a contract AND his management will (no doubt) have been talking to other clubs about their level of interest...him speaking out now can only make him sound dishonest later if 'things' change.

                    I just think commentating on it AT ALL is zero win for him...he should just go on holidays and relax.
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44089

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      The speculation and chat will continue despite some media reporting that he isn't requesting a trade.
                      I'm not sure if the club would be better served by getting on the front foot and addressing it by saying that we have discussed the rumours with Bailey and his manager and they have confirmed that there will be no trade request.
                      Hard to say if that would stop the speculation or not.
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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11087

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        But why does he have to do that?

                        #1: Bailey Smith being in the news is good for Bailey Smith...let the speculation roll on and keep him f+c in the media even when not playing...just smart business in his business.

                        #2: He doesn't actually need to say anything - he has a contract AND his management will (no doubt) have been talking to other clubs about their level of interest...him speaking out now can only make him sound dishonest later if 'things' change.

                        I just think commentating on it AT ALL is zero win for him...he should just go on holidays and relax.
                        Yep, it's much better to be talked about and hated than to be ignored. Think of Bailey Smith as a brand (and he very much is)......the former scenario significantly enhances his brand profile and reach/recall, whereas there is basically no brand recognition whatsoever with the latter scenario - he would be as forgettable as one of Dunkley's bland tortillas
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6474

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          The first was a rumour with nothing to back it up, the second was quoting a player manager.
                          Is this referring to the Edmund tweet? What part of that has a quote from Smith's manager?

                          Connor Sports could come out and quash the rumour in the same way that Tim Hazell did for Treloar - they haven't done that.

                          Everything we're reading from Edmund, Ralph, Cleary and Caro is based on drip feedings from their sources/potential speculation/who knows what else - you can make your own decision on what's credible and what isn't, but let's not pretend Edmund's tweet actually contains concrete info like a 'quote from a player manager' just because it aligns with the narrative we'd prefer to believe.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            But why does he have to do that?

                            #1: Bailey Smith being in the news is good for Bailey Smith...let the speculation roll on and keep him f+c in the media even when not playing...just smart business in his business.

                            #2: He doesn't actually need to say anything - he has a contract AND his management will (no doubt) have been talking to other clubs about their level of interest...him speaking out now can only make him sound dishonest later if 'things' change.

                            I just think commentating on it AT ALL is zero win for him...he should just go on holidays and relax.
                            Well. When you put it like that!
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18820

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              The speculation and chat will continue despite some media reporting that he isn't requesting a trade.
                              I'm not sure if the club would be better served by getting on the front foot and addressing it by saying that we have discussed the rumours with Bailey and his manager and they have confirmed that there will be no trade request.
                              Hard to say if that would stop the speculation or not.
                              I'd prefer the club to address it with Bailey and his manager.
                              Signing on or not? If not... You're on the market when you're worth more.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7279

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I'm not sure if the club would be better served by getting on the front foot and addressing it by saying that we have discussed the rumours with Bailey and his manager and they have confirmed that there will be no trade request.
                                But again, why would the club comment apart from saying something like "Hey - we love Bailey - he's awesome!". Yes. FULL. STOP.

                                Saying anything else just creates problems. If you say 'you hope he stays' well, that makes it harder if in the future you decide to negotiate a trade. Essentially anything you say can be thrown back at you...and whilst the circumstances (at least on the surface) SEEM to be very different, surely we have learnt from the Stringer situation where we effectively came out and said "Jake Stringer...yeah, NAAHHHHHHH...anyone want him 'cos we sure don't!" in trade week.

                                Just zip it. Pull down the cone of silence. Work on all possibilities in the background and say nuthin to no-one!
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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