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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11023

    Re: Player Contract Status

    Roarke has the designated eker position on our list all sewn up. About to enter his sixth season with 17 games to his name and at long odds to add more than a handful to that total. I will be amazed if he is still on the list in 12 months time which suggests this is a wasted opportunity to give a shot to somebody else.

    Gardner actually makes more sense. His untimely injury meant he didn't get much opportunity to prove himself and he provides much needed tall depth, potentially forward, back and the ruck. We have plenty of players who can offer similar qualities to Smith, not so Gardner.

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5507

      Re: Player Contract Status

      Originally posted by Axe Man
      Roarke has the designated eker position on our list all sewn up. About to enter his sixth season with 17 games to his name and at long odds to add more than a handful to that total. I will be amazed if he is still on the list in 12 months time which suggests this is a wasted opportunity to give a shot to somebody else.

      Gardner actually makes more sense. His untimely injury meant he didn't get much opportunity to prove himself and he provides much needed tall depth, potentially forward, back and the ruck. We have plenty of players who can offer similar qualities to Smith, not so Gardner.
      I feel this is more about 2020 draft than anything else.

      We have NGA and Father/Son candidates who look like we should take them.

      We will need plenty of list spots to be able to utilise the picks and adding someone who could not be delisted next year would interfere with that requirement.
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44314

        Re: Player Contract Status

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        I feel this is more about 2020 draft than anything else.

        We have NGA and Father/Son candidates who look like we should take them.

        We will need plenty of list spots to be able to utilise the picks and adding someone who could not be delisted next year would interfere with that requirement.
        Not so sure BJ, what if many of the players on one year deals all have good seasons in 2020? I think we could have opened spots on the rookie list this year without compromising 2020 objectives in the slightest
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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11117

          Re: Player Contract Status

          Really is ridiculous that Roarke has been on our list this long.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44314

            Re: Player Contract Status

            Axeman is right. On displayed form keeping Smith is a strange decision that smacks of Bevo liking the player. Lets hope Bevo has got this one right

            With Roberts moving on Gardner at least provides some coverage as a key defender
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Axeman is right. On displayed form keeping Smith is a strange decision that smacks of Bevo liking the player. Lets hope Bevo has got this one right

              With Roberts moving on Gardner at least provides some coverage as a key defender
              It's been many a year we've not participated in a rookie draft. Moreso factoring out times where it was for financial reasons. For a club with a rich history in plummeting the rookie draft, sitting one out altogether is hard to fathom.
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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10087

                Re: Player Contract Status

                Retaining Roarke is weird, but there's a real possibility that Gardner is the worst player in the AFL next year. Baffling decision to re-list him.
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66135

                  Re: Player Contract Status

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Retaining Roarke is weird, but there's a real possibility that Gardner is the worst player in the AFL next year. Baffling decision to re-list him.
                  Roberts>Gardner
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44314

                    Re: Player Contract Status

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Roberts>Gardner
                    Not necessarily if the coach wasn't going to select Roberts
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66135

                      Re: Player Contract Status

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Not necessarily if the coach wasn't going to select Roberts
                      Personally I don't rate Gardner at all. I hope he proves me wrong as he is on our list, but what I have seen in the VFL, he is only on the team due to height.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44314

                        Re: Player Contract Status

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Personally I don't rate Gardner at all. I hope he proves me wrong as he is on our list, but what I have seen in the VFL, he is only on the team due to height.
                        While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6501

                          Re: Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
                          Any chance they see Gardner as ruck depth? Think we're still running way too short in that area. Might be one that's groomed as a potential ruck over summer.

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                          • Missing Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8501

                            Re: Player Contract Status

                            Was really hoping we targeted a small zippy forward and ruck depth I will back Sam and his team but this makes me feel uneasy

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44314

                              Re: Player Contract Status

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              Any chance they see Gardner as ruck depth? Think we're still running way too short in that area. Might be one that's groomed as a potential ruck over summer.
                              He's not a ruckman from what I have seen. We will probably back ourselves to get him improving but I hope we don't think he can ruck
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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13188

                                Re: Player Contract Status

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
                                I saw three very ordinary games at Footscray early last season.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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