Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67678

    #121
    Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

    Originally posted by Hotdog60
    2020'S DRAFTEES RE-RANKED: Who bolts up the order, who slides?
    Some players from the 2020 draft class shone this season, but others took a while to get going.

    Link here

    31. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Pick No.1, Western Bulldogs), 18.7 Rating Points, av 3.7ppg

    Does that mean if JUH decided to move to another club our return would be a second round.
    I would like to see this at the end of next year and hopefully JUH has a full pre season and a full year of football.
    It is actually a crap article. You can't re rank players after one season. Let's see in 5 years time where they all sit.
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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5627

      #122
      Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

      Originally posted by bornadog
      It is actually a crap article. You can't re rank players after one season. Let's see in 5 years time where they all sit.
      It doesn't even qualify as that.

      Simply it is the AFL Ratings applied to 2020 draftees as a rating per game. It has no value in assessing progress at this point.

      None of the players have achieved a rating that would have them set up as stars of the game.
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      • angelopetraglia
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6923

        #123
        Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

        It looks like Marra and Bont have been hanging out during the off season (as highlighted across both Bont's and Marra's socials). This has to be a very good thing.

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        • Doc26
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2009
          • 3087

          #124
          Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

          Originally posted by Hotdog60
          2020'S DRAFTEES RE-RANKED: Who bolts up the order, who slides?
          Some players from the 2020 draft class shone this season, but others took a while to get going.

          Link here

          31. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Pick No.1, Western Bulldogs), 18.7 Rating Points, av 3.7ppg

          Does that mean if JUH decided to move to another club our return would be a second round.
          I would like to see this at the end of next year and hopefully JUH has a full pre season and a full year of football.
          No doubt the same ranking system that had Lewis Taylor ahead of Marcus after year 1.

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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5627

            #125
            Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by Doc26
            No doubt the same ranking system that had Lewis Taylor ahead of Marcus after year 1.
            I know your not being serious, but the one that had Lewis Taylor ahead was a direct influence on the voting integrity of the judging panel.

            Justin Leppitsch as Brisbane coach campaigned strongly for Taylor as a point of recognition when Brisbane had been struggling to retain players. There may have also been a suggestion that a member of the voting panel was seduced by the betting odds.
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45508

              #126
              Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              I know your not being serious, but the one that had Lewis Taylor ahead was a direct influence on the voting integrity of the judging panel.

              Justin Leppitsch as Brisbane coach campaigned strongly for Taylor as a point of recognition when Brisbane had been struggling to retain players. There may have also been a suggestion that a member of the voting panel was seduced by the betting odds.
              In the voting KB also selected Taylor over Bont. I guess everyone is capable of a brain fade.
              Anyway that's all water under the bridge and we all know Bont is star player.
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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5158

                #127
                Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                Originally posted by Hotdog60
                2020'S DRAFTEES RE-RANKED: Who bolts up the order, who slides?
                Some players from the 2020 draft class shone this season, but others took a while to get going.

                Link here

                31. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Pick No.1, Western Bulldogs), 18.7 Rating Points, av 3.7ppg

                Does that mean if JUH decided to move to another club our return would be a second round.
                I would like to see this at the end of next year and hopefully JUH has a full pre season and a full year of football.
                That is the laziest article i have seen written in a long time, and it has been a dire two years for journalism.

                Surely after ranking them by the AFL player ratings you take one look and go, "nah this is a shit idea".
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45508

                  #128
                  Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                  Originally posted by soupman
                  That is the laziest article i have seen written in a long time, and it has been a dire two years for journalism.

                  Surely after ranking them by the AFL player ratings you take one look and go, "nah this is a shit idea".
                  It is a very small sample size to make the call and will change a fair bit over the next 2 or 3 years.
                  The real question is that given what we have seen so far in one season are there any howlers that went in the first round and the answer is still not clear.
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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6986

                    #129
                    Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                    Originally posted by soupman
                    That is the laziest article i have seen written in a long time, and it has been a dire two years for journalism.

                    Surely after ranking them by the AFL player ratings you take one look and go, "nah this is a shit idea".
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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19357

                      #130
                      Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by soupman
                      That is the laziest article i have seen written in a long time, and it has been a dire two years for journalism.

                      Surely after ranking them by the AFL player ratings you take one look and go, "nah this is a shit idea".
                      Spot on - you just need to run your eyes over that list once to realise it makes absolutely no sense to use that data to rank the players at this point.

                      Complete click bait rubbish, and I feel stupider for having read it !
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                      • Hotdog60
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6007

                        #131
                        Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Spot on - you just need to run your eyes over that list once to realise it makes absolutely no sense to use that data to rank the players at this point.

                        Complete click bait rubbish, and I feel stupider for having read it !
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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13387

                          #132
                          Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          It is actually a crap article. You can't re rank players after one season. Let's see in 5 years time where they all sit.
                          Sure you can. You just have to understand it in the context of one person's opinion regarding who had the best first year post being drafted. That's all it is.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5627

                            #133
                            Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            Sure you can. You just have to understand it in the context of one person's opinion regarding who had the best first year post being drafted. That's all it is.
                            Sorry to disagree as it is not anyone's opinion.

                            This is actually AFL player ratings and then putting an order based on the average rating per game.

                            It is certainly an odd interpretation of player ranking considering that it relates to so few games and even as few as a single game for some.
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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13387

                              #134
                              Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              Sorry to disagree as it is not anyone's opinion.

                              This is actually AFL player ratings and then putting an order based on the average rating per game.

                              It is certainly an odd interpretation of player ranking considering that it relates to so few games and even as few as a single game for some.
                              So it's a ratings based system of who had the best year immediately after being drafted rather than an individual's opinion. Thanks for clarifying without looking too deeply into it I assumed it was an individual journo's opinion. Well, at least it's measurable somehow i suppose.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Vred
                                Senior Player
                                • Nov 2018
                                • 1301

                                #135
                                Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

                                How many games do we expect JUH to play next season? I'm expecting him in as the third tall behind Naughton and English, at least until Bruce is back.
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