Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

[EasternWest]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

well now I feel like a complete idiot. BUT. What a game. He is gonna be a huge star.
Thanks for being gentle with a damn old fool who don't know nuthin' 'bout 'nuthin.

That's our secret, DD. None of us know nuthin' about nuthin'.

[ledge]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

Many in the media don't make allowances for the impact of Covid on the draftees over the last few years. Missing football prior to be drafted isn't a great start and you are coming from a long way back.

This was huge he couldn’t even play VFL that year as it was shut down, how does he improve or get experience not playing games ? The media are a disgrace in the way they treated him the first two years . Side note he was a number 1 puck coming into a top 8 team . Not like he was going to a bottom side where you would get selected straight away .

[macca]

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Many in the media don't make allowances for the impact of Covid on the draftees over the last few years. Missing football prior to be drafted isn't a great start and you are coming from a long way back.

I hope we can find some emerging talent in the 19-22 year old age bracket , as they would have missed a lot of development due to covid

There has been a few with success emerge:
Cincotta
Camentti

They are always good stories to read.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

well now I feel like a complete idiot. BUT. What a game. He is gonna be a huge star.
Thanks for being gentle with a damn old fool who don't know nuthin' 'bout 'nuthin.

I liked your passion.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

This was huge he couldn’t even play VFL that year as it was shut down, how does he improve or get experience not playing games ? The media are a disgrace in the way they treated him the first two years . Side note he was a number 1 puck coming into a top 8 team . Not like he was going to a bottom side where you would get selected straight away .

The media were barracking for him to seek out a trade........

[Danny the snakeman]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

The media were barracking for him to seek out a trade........

Don't speak too soon.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

Ugle-Hagan averages a touch over 1 goal a game. His 4 goal effort against Freo gives him a breather. This bloke has all the talent in the world but ignores the basics, chase, tackle, give off, most important KICK SRAIGHT. r

I think his off ball work has improved significantly, and he?s normally a neat user (a few recent examples standout where he missed an open Lobb etc) who puts the ball to a team mates advantage. Can?t agree with your assessment on this one.

Goal kicking needs work. Yes.

[MrMahatma]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

He's showing great signs and playing some really good footy. His hands are amazing and his ability to run has improved out of sight since his first season. He still will have a number of years of physical development left in his body. He's going to be a star.

[Bornadog]

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Bontempelli challenges emerging star to produce 'more and better'

NOW THAT Jamarra Ugle-Hagan has proven his abilities, Western Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli wants "more and better" from the star forward.

Ugle-Hagan will be a vital key in Friday night's blockbuster against top side Collingwood at Marvel Stadium.

It will be a stern test of the Bulldogs' bona fides, with wins over North Melbourne and Fremantle leaving them well-placed in sixth spot with a 9-6 record.

Ugle-Hagan shone against the Dockers with four goals with the 2020 No.1 draft pick continuing to flourish in his career.

Bontempelli, who has been something of a mentor to the 21-year-old, said Ugle-Hagan had shown the influence he can have on a game.

"He's already shown he has match-winning abilities. He's helped us win a couple of games in the past and this one (against Fremantle) was obviously quite significant," Bontempelli said.

"He's just worked so much harder on his forward craft, his fitness, how he can help the team - regardless of whether he's kicking goals or not.

"The next thing now is once you realise your capacity and what you can do, how do you keep repeating that and keep searching for more and better?"

Emerging Bulldog Jamarra Ugle-Hagan takes a strong speccy and converts the resulting set shot

Criticism has emerged surrounding Rory Lobb's form, but Bontempelli said the Fremantle recruit had also helped Ugle-Hagan in their attack.

"Him being there has allowed someone like Jamarra to ... flourish as well," Bontempelli said.

"Between him and Aaron (Naughton), they're taking away pretty big targets from Jamarra at different points, which has really allowed him to expose a third tall (defender).

"He (Lobb) is definitely contributing and we're still definitely happy with how he's performing."

[ledge]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

Bontempelli challenges emerging star to produce 'more and better'

NOW THAT Jamarra Ugle-Hagan has proven his abilities, Western Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli wants "more and better" from the star forward.

Ugle-Hagan will be a vital key in Friday night's blockbuster against top side Collingwood at Marvel Stadium.

It will be a stern test of the Bulldogs' bona fides, with wins over North Melbourne and Fremantle leaving them well-placed in sixth spot with a 9-6 record.

Ugle-Hagan shone against the Dockers with four goals with the 2020 No.1 draft pick continuing to flourish in his career.

Bontempelli, who has been something of a mentor to the 21-year-old, said Ugle-Hagan had shown the influence he can have on a game.

"He's already shown he has match-winning abilities. He's helped us win a couple of games in the past and this one (against Fremantle) was obviously quite significant," Bontempelli said.

"He's just worked so much harder on his forward craft, his fitness, how he can help the team - regardless of whether he's kicking goals or not.

"The next thing now is once you realise your capacity and what you can do, how do you keep repeating that and keep searching for more and better?"

Emerging Bulldog Jamarra Ugle-Hagan takes a strong speccy and converts the resulting set shot

Criticism has emerged surrounding Rory Lobb's form, but Bontempelli said the Fremantle recruit had also helped Ugle-Hagan in their attack.

"Him being there has allowed someone like Jamarra to ... flourish as well," Bontempelli said.

"Between him and Aaron (Naughton), they're taking away pretty big targets from Jamarra at different points, which has really allowed him to expose a third tall (defender).

"He (Lobb) is definitely contributing and we're still definitely happy with how he's performing."

This is how I have seen it all year. We change our focal forward each week to best beat the opposition, last week it was Jamarra the week before it was Weightman , a few times it has been Naughton . Lobb has a great tank and takes a high mark he will take the best back away from the other forwards, he doesn’t have to even get a kick to do his job. He is also giving English some freedom of rucking.
Will he be the major forward in a game ? I’m not sure and why would he be if it’s going to drag a tall backman into our forward line.
He kicks a goal a game it’s a bit of a bonus. He even tackled a guy the other week to get a shot on goal . Sadly a lot of supporters and media go on stats which aren’t a true reflection and can be extremely wrong.

[macca]

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This is how I have seen it all year. We change our focal forward each week to best beat the opposition, last week it was Jamarra the week before it was Weightman , a few times it has been Naughton . Lobb has a great tank and takes a high mark he will take the best back away from the other forwards, he doesn’t have to even get a kick to do his job. He is also giving English some freedom of rucking.
Will he be the major forward in a game ? I’m not sure and why would he be if it’s going to drag a tall backman into our forward line.
He kicks a goal a game it’s a bit of a bonus. He even tackled a guy the other week to get a shot on goal . Sadly a lot of supporters and media go on stats which aren’t a true reflection and can be extremely wrong.

@ledge great point, these are the 1% , no stats that can record the type of influence Lobb has on the games.

Without Lobb, JUH may have to get 2nd best defender and not so much freedom.
Now Lobb is out of fwd 50 and roaming the wing, maybe it creates more space for JUH .

I guess you can only see how the player's running patterns converge with ball movement in the game. Its hard on TV to see it all , and the commentary is just getting rubbish now.

[Mofra]

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@ledge great point, these are the 1% , no stats that can record the type of influence Lobb has on the games.

Without Lobb, JUH may have to get 2nd best defender and not so much freedom.
Now Lobb is out of fwd 50 and roaming the wing, maybe it creates more space for JUH .

I guess you can only see how the player's running patterns converge with ball movement in the game. Its hard on TV to see it all , and the commentary is just getting rubbish now.

Naughton's "quiet" game last week involved him dragging Alex Pearce away from the ball and Naughts finished with 2 goals anyway.
We're often harsh on players who play a 'team first' style of game. Marra's improvement early in the season when he wasn't kicking goals, but working hard to provide the outlet kick from our D50, was just as important and something he wasn't doing consistently earlier in his career.
I'm pretty happy we had a free swing at a no 1 draft pick in a stroke of luck so amazing the AFL changed the rules (twice) after we grabbed him.

[ledge]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

Naughton's "quiet" game last week involved him dragging Alex Pearce away from the ball and Naughts finished with 2 goals anyway.
We're often harsh on players who play a 'team first' style of game. Marra's improvement early in the season when he wasn't kicking goals, but working hard to provide the outlet kick from our D50, was just as important and something he wasn't doing consistently earlier in his career.
I'm pretty happy we had a free swing at a no 1 draft pick in a stroke of luck so amazing the AFL changed the rules (twice) after we grabbed him.

Jamarra is a gun player . These experts just go on stats of him kicking goals. Even when he wasn’t kicking goals his ground work is exceptional he is like a ruck rover in the forward line and has always been good at ground Level . That’s what separates him from the big lumbering full forward . We are extremely lucky as Naughton is also great with ground balls. Just a little secret , Darcy and Croft might be tall but they have ground ball ability too.
And don’t forget English .
We are seriously blessed if they can get it all together .

[D Mitchell]

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Jamarra is a gun player . These experts just go on stats of him kicking goals. Even when he wasn?t kicking goals his ground work is exceptional he is like a ruck rover in the forward line and has always been good at ground Level That?s what separates him from the big lumbering full forward . We are extremely lucky as Naughton is also great with ground balls. Just a little secret , Darcy and Croft might be tall but they have ground ball ability too.
And don?t forget English .
We are seriously blessed if they can get it all together .

This year, Ugle-Hagan has kicked 20 goals in 15 games, 1.3 per game. 9 of those have come in 2 games, that?s fewer than a goal a game for the rest. He?s averaging 8 kicks a game and 5 marks, that?s up from 6 and 3.5 last year so there?s improvement. 13 tackles in 15 games, 18 from 17 games last year, minimal and inconsequential but no improvement, so far. He had a 5 goal game last year, he?s had 2 (including Freo, a bit of leeway, please) so far this year. His primary skill is the run, jump and mark, on Saturday he excelled at that. Next is his ability to get away, either by himself or with minimal opposition. If you watch his play, he doesn?t chase and second efforts are poor, see the tackle stats. He?s nothing like a ruck-rover, they are ball winners. Ugle-Hagan stays outside packs waving his arms ?kick it to me?. That?s OK, not everyone is a Libba, a pity he doesn?t kick accurately. I haven?t seen anything much at ground level, certainly nothing approaching ?good at ground level? but not supported by stats, your judgment might well be better than mine. Last year, after his 5-goaler and earlier this year, his second 5-goaler, we saw the same optimism but, in both cases, followed by weeks of mediocre performance. Let?s keep calm and hope.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/2023.html

PS. I've just noticed that the 15 games didn't include the Freo Game. Adjust the stats. If I'd been any good at maths, I'd have become an engineer, instead of a .......

[Mofra]

Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs

Jamarra is a gun player . These experts just go on stats of him kicking goals. Even when he wasn’t kicking goals his ground work is exceptional he is like a ruck rover in the forward line and has always been good at ground Level . That’s what separates him from the big lumbering full forward . We are extremely lucky as Naughton is also great with ground balls. Just a little secret , Darcy and Croft might be tall but they have ground ball ability too.
And don’t forget English .
We are seriously blessed if they can get it all together .

No idea on how Croft will be in a few years' time, but Darcy did kick one of the goals of the year at VFL level last year - from a ground ball gather near the boundary