Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

[Happy Days]

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Sorry to offend with a failed attempt at humour. Will try to do better with my next comment by keeping it serious.

Its fine. I think I’m mostly half hot that I’m actually agreeing with you on Schache.

[Grantysghost]

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Is it an assumption though?

[Grantysghost]

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Its fine. I think I’m mostly half hot that I’m actually agreeing with you on Schache.

I think you and I have always been strong advocates for who I like to call "our Josh".

[MrMahatma]

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Agreed he should get another chance, I like his agility and smarts.

He's only 20 years old and still very much in the development phase of his career. It's easy to forget with the receding hairline and him having been drafted out of the SANFL Seniors.

Yeah, true. I def judge him as being 23-24. That said, it'd be nice if he impacted more, no matter what his age is!

[Danjul]

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Its fine. I think I’m mostly half hot that I’m actually agreeing with you on Schache.

Another bedtime story about Josh Schache, for all his fans.

The time: ?
The place: ?
The clue: Schache got dropped because his opponent kicked 7 goals.

The facts:- Viewed as a failed forward, an unknown fan on the match committee got him a job on the backline. I think it was for the very important role of centre half back, but I could be mistaken. Anyway it was a role that we can assume was foreign to him, many thought it would be bad but none foresaw the catastrophe. So out he went with another trophy, world’s worst backman.

The historical investigation: He had 14 disposals, 6 marks and 150 metres gained. Surprisingly good for a novice. In all of these he was ahead of English. (No criticism, only used as a yardstick). And more disposals than his opponent. So where did those 7 goals (and our loss) come from?

Some were from outside 50. Match winning goals from a distance our current team cannot comprehend at the moment. And from marks from good delivery. How good? Bloody good, the type Naughton dreams about but never gets.

I will hand over to the experts on the AFL website. "The Bombers won clearances 47-31, centre bounce clearances 18-12 and scored 70 points from stoppage chains to the Bulldogs 21 points from this source.
Essendon were much more effective going forward this match. The Bombers scored 15 goals from 39 inside 50 entries." (The Dogs had 21 more inside 50s and more shots at goal overall but still managed to lose.)

Now the part of the story that is a secret. When were the goals kicked?

8 of Essendon’s goals were kicked within 90 seconds of a centre bounce, and 6 goals 3 behinds from centre bounce chains where no Bulldog player touched the ball. Is that why their forwards did so well? Anyway, Schache had to go.

The fallout: The Dogs went into the next game without known goal kickers Bruce and Schache, and kicked their equal second worst number of goals in more than 15 years. Only 5, where 6 would have probably given a top four finish and 7 would have guaranteed it (and a much easier run into the Grand final and who knows what). Anyway, Schache had to go.

[Bornadog]

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Another bedtime story about Josh Schache, for all his fans.

During 2021, we had two big forwards who kicked 47, and 48 goals, so Schache was not needed up forward and when he played there, he was ineffective.

In 2022, Bruce is missing but we are giving game time to a young talent.

We are desperate for a tall backman that can take on some of the gorilla forwards.

Given that we need a backman, the MC has decided to trial Schache at FB/CHB. So far in the VFL, he has played some pretty good games and could be the backman we are after. Personally, I think this is almost his last chance to try and cement a spot.

[Grantysghost]

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During 2021, we had two big forwards who kicked 47, and 48 goals, so Schache was not needed up forward and when he played there, he was ineffective.

In 2022, Bruce is missing but we are giving game time to a young talent.

We are desperate for a tall backman that can take on some of the gorilla forwards.

Given that we need a backman, the MC has decided to trial Schache at FB/CHB. So far in the VFL, he has played some pretty good games and could be the backman we are after. Personally, I think this is
almost his last chance to try and cement a spot.

He's really average over head and would get monstered by a decent forward, I can't see it.

Problem for Josh is he's a flanker in a KPP'S body. So we expect him to be able to do KP things when he just can't.
If he was a forward flanker that pushed up like Smith does be perfect but he lacks speed.

I'll be pleased if he can find a spot and cement it but I'm really really doubtful.

[chef]

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If Schache had the intensity of a Cordy/Gardner/Scott/Rourke etc he'd be playing.

He just doesn't go in hard enough for Bevo to like, it's a non negotiable in this team.

[Bornadog]

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He's really average over head and would get monstered by a decent forward, I can't see it.

Problem for Josh is he's a flanker in a KPP'S body. So we expect him to be able to do KP things when he just can't.
If he was a forward flanker that pushed up like Smith does be perfect but he lacks speed.

I'll be pleased if he can find a spot and cement it but I'm really really doubtful.

I am just giving you what the MC is doing with him. He is being given every chance.

BTW, he doesn't need to be trying to outmark anyone, he has to just go the punch. That is what he did last week in the VFL.

Time will tell.

[Axe Man]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

Another bedtime story about Josh Schache, for all his fans.

The time: ?
The place: ?
The clue: Schache got dropped because his opponent kicked 7 goals.

The facts:- Viewed as a failed forward, an unknown fan on the match committee got him a job on the backline. I think it was for the very important role of centre half back, but I could be mistaken. Anyway it was a role that we can assume was foreign to him, many thought it would be bad but none foresaw the catastrophe. So out he went with another trophy, world’s worst backman.

The historical investigation: He had 14 disposals, 6 marks and 150 metres gained. Surprisingly good for a novice. In all of these he was ahead of English. (No criticism, only used as a yardstick). And more disposals than his opponent. So where did those 7 goals (and our loss) come from?

Some were from outside 50. Match winning goals from a distance our current team cannot comprehend at the moment. And from marks from good delivery. How good? Bloody good, the type Naughton dreams about but never gets.

I will hand over to the experts on the AFL website. "The Bombers won clearances 47-31, centre bounce clearances 18-12 and scored 70 points from stoppage chains to the Bulldogs 21 points from this source.
Essendon were much more effective going forward this match. The Bombers scored 15 goals from 39 inside 50 entries." (The Dogs had 21 more inside 50s and more shots at goal overall but still managed to lose.)

Now the part of the story that is a secret. When were the goals kicked?

8 of Essendon’s goals were kicked within 90 seconds of a centre bounce, and 6 goals 3 behinds from centre bounce chains where no Bulldog player touched the ball. Is that why their forwards did so well? Anyway, Schache had to go.

The fallout: The Dogs went into the next game without known goal kickers Bruce and Schache, and kicked their equal second worst number of goals in more than 15 years. Only 5, where 6 would have probably given a top four finish and 7 would have guaranteed it (and a much easier run into the Grand final and who knows what). Anyway, Schache had to go.

Nice story. It's missing the part where Schache was injured during the Essendon game and missed the following week v the hawks, promptly returning in the final round v Port.

[Grantysghost]

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I am just giving you what the MC is doing with him. He is being given every chance.

BTW, he doesn't need to be trying to outmark anyone, he has to just go the punch. That is what he did last week in the VFL.

Time will tell.

I meant overhead as in marking and spoiling, but yes they're giving him a chance in that spot for sure.

[Danjul]

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Nice story. It's missing the part where Schache was injured during the Essendon game and missed the following week v the hawks, promptly returning in the final round v Port.

Schache did not play against Port after the hawks game. He did play against them in the finals. He might have been the medical substitute but he wasn’t in the 22 and didn’t have a stat.

[Axe Man]

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Schache did not play against Port after the hawks game. He did play against them in the finals. He might have been the medical substitute but he wasn’t in the 22 and didn’t have a stat.

Well it is along way from the point but yes, he was the sub.

[Danjul]

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Well it is along way from the point but yes, he was the sub.

The point is we needed to kick extra goals, 1 or 2, and Bruce was out and our forward line was not kicking winning scores and a fit goal kicker sat out a game.

We actually lost the Port game by less than a goal. So one more guaranteed the double chance and not travelling as much.

Fits the point perfectly. (as I saw it). I’m happy for you to disagree.

[Axe Man]

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The point is we needed to kick extra goals, 1 or 2, and Bruce was out and our forward line was not kicking winning scores and a fit goal kicker sat out a game.

We actually lost the Port game by less than a goal. So one more guaranteed the double chance and not travelling as much.

Fits the point perfectly. (as I saw it). I’m happy for you to disagree.

You wrote a small novel about how Schache was unjustly dropped when he was injured. You then completely ignore that fact to nitpick something else. We get it, you think Schache has been hard done by. That’s fine but surely you have made your point by now?