WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

[GVGjr]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

I can handle a mistake here and there, its going to happen to the very best. For many of his opponent's goals, there wasn't much I thought he did wrong. He's no A grader, but he's definitely shown he is able to play a role at this level.

Spot on YHF, he didn't have a great night but he's been a more than decent performer this year and has had some very creditable games.

[GVGjr]

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I know there is always discussions around if players are we are being linked to from a recruitment perspective are tall enough but height alone doesn't necessarily make for effective back lines. The Cats are just far better organised and know their roles.

Losing Stewart somewhat early didn't overly effect them and the same with a late withdrawal of Kolodjashnij.

By the way, as someone old enough to remember Terry De Koning playing for us it's a shame we didn't have the right sort of picks to land one of his boys in their draft years.

[G-Mo77]

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I don't remember him but for some reason I was googling the De Konig's and noticed their Dad was a former Bulldog

[GVGjr]

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I don't remember him but for some reason I was googling the De Konig's and noticed their Dad was a former Bulldog

Don't you go flaunting your youthful age in front of the old farts. How dare you sir
He was a fairly limited player and played as a defender for us. His two boys are going along OK and should have long careers.

[DOG GOD]

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Our best fwd for creating space is Wallis, but he wasn’t playing, possibly coz he’s slow and has no defensive pressure….oh hang on

[merantau]

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Just back from the game. Such a frustraing night.

We came out from the start with intensity but missed chances. They made us pay with coast to coast gaols and from difficult conversions to rub salt into the wounds. We also then gifted them goals with school boy turnovers. Then they got momentum and we were on the back foot. The way Geelong play you don't want to give them a lead to defend.

Every time we play Geelong they also play the game on their terms. They concede the midfield numbers and contest to us. However, they defend the front of the stoppage well. They force us backwards and they always have players behind the ball. We need to force the play into a crowded Bulldogs forward line. When they get a turnover they are then off to the races and get easier looks when they get behind us.

Our inability to even halve contests in the air is a massive concern. They just schooled us all night. The part that hurt the most was so many uncontested marks where they just had numbers and better positioning.

Even with all of that ... if we took our chances like they take their chances we win. Cameron kicks them from everywhere. Angles, distances, pressure all result in goals. McComb after the play of the night misses from 30m out directly in front. Weightman misses a set shot from 20m with a regulation snap. Naughton misses a snap from 15m out. West can't make the distance with a set shot snap from 30m. How are we so bad at converting? We win the inside 50 count 57-48 and lose again.

Even with all those missed goals, we absolutely gifted them two goals from horrific school boy turnovers in our back 50m. They gave us nothing easy all night.

We are close. But we are a mile away. Just not good enough to get the job finished and have now lost to Carlton by 12, Geelong by 13, Crows by 1 and Port by 17. Even win two of those and we would be flying. But to lose all of them is just puts us in a difficult position.

Nailed it in a nutshell or three. So frustrating.

[merantau]

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I hate Geelong. Hate them. Hate them. Hate them.

That is 2 wins for us from our last 17 games.

Last few games.

Cats by 13
Cats by 5 after the siren.
Cats by 11.

They own us.

I hate them more and more each day.

[comrade]

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That was a real ‘time to plan for next year’ type of game for me.

[merantau]

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That was a real ‘time to plan for next year’ type of game for me.

Please, I'm depressed enough already. The season is not over yet but the gradient is getting steeper with every loss.

[Grantysghost]

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That was a real ‘time to plan for next year’ type of game for me.

That game sort of felt like the par result for Bevo against the better sides. Apart from some lightning in a bottle in finals we are generally just a step behind in normality.
I’m not sure how we bridge the gap tbh.
Bont has a shoulder injury (AC) he’s been carrying plus the ankle, he’s so important he’s not influencing games atm. He’s just great and not god like !

[comrade]

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That game sort of felt like the par result for Bevo against the better sides. Apart from some lightning in a bottle in finals we are generally just a step behind in normality.
I’m not sure how we bridge the gap tbh.
Bont has a shoulder injury (AC) he’s been carrying plus the ankle, he’s so important he’s not influencing games atm. He’s just great and not god like !

How do we bridge the gap? Stack your F50 with natural forwards, play a genuine 2nd ruck option that can also contribute elsewhere, have more marking power in defence and place a premium on foot skills and good decision makers.

Basically - structure up like every other top 4 side. Work ethic, mindset etc can only take you so far. The right type of players need to be in the right parts of the ground for it to matter anyway. We have both (chronic) structure and (regular) mindset issues which means we’re always chasing the leading pack.

[angelopetraglia]

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How many games this year have followed this script?

When the other has any type of momentum they put us to the sword with multipe easy conversions (even North did this to us). When we gain the ascendancy and dominate possesion and territory we can't connect with out forwards and when we do they kick points. It saps your energy, confidence and mental well being.

Carlton game went like this.
Swans game went like this and we nearly lost.
Tigers game went like this.
Port game went like this.
Cats game went like this.

[Grantysghost]

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How do we bridge the gap? Stack your F50 with natural forwards, play a genuine 2nd ruck option that can also contribute elsewhere, have more marking power in defence and place a premium on foot skills and good decision makers.

Basically - structure up like every other top 4 side. Work ethic, mindset etc can only take you so far. The right type of players need to be in the right parts of the ground for it to matter anyway. We have both (chronic) structure and (regular) mindset issues which means we’re always chasing the leading pack.

It was so evident last night. The cats guys were almost resting on the field as part of that huge space invaders formation they had going and our guys appeared to be working twice as hard.

Well structured sides like Melbourne and the Cats almost appear effortless compared to our mania.

[comrade]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

How many games this year have followed this script?

When the other has any type of momentum they put us to the sword with multipe easy conversions (even North did this to us). When we gain the ascendancy and dominate possesion and territory we can't connect with out forwards and when we do they kick points. It saps your energy, confidence and mental well being.

Carlton game went like this.
Swans game went like this and we nearly lost.
Tigers game went like this.
Port game went like this.
Cats game went like this.

What if our ongoing inability to convert inside 50s into scoring opportunities and scoring opportunities into actual goals was due to the fact that the personnel we select to play inside 50 aren’t forwards and don’t have the nous or ability to play there at a consistently high level?

We had McComb (not a natural forward) spraying a simple 30m set shot, they had Cameron slotting them from 55. They had Hawkins bullying Gardner, we had Naughts (not a natural forward) struggling to break even with De Koning. They had Close (a natural forward) causing issues for us, we had McNeil (not a natural forward) giving us nothing.

[angelopetraglia]

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What if our ongoing inability to convert inside 50s into scoring opportunities and scoring opportunities into actual goals was due to the fact that the personnel we select to play inside 50 aren’t forwards and don’t have the nous or ability to play there at a consistently high level?

We had McComb spraying a simple 30m set shot, they had Cameron slotting them from 55.

Yes. Agree. Massive part of the issue.