WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18931

    Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Not sure your problem with Bruce?
    I think Danjul is pointing out the structure was better back then rather than Bruce was bad.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18931

      Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

      Originally posted by bornadog
      McNeil is ranked 15th best tackler inside 50 in the AFL
      I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Danjul
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 1601

        Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        It does kind of blow my mind that McNeil and McComb (the little Macs) get a gig before a bonafide forward in Schache.

        I'm as hard on Schache as anyone (because I want him to succeed) but structurally he has to be better.

        Must come in next game for one of those guys.

        Bevo and his obsession with the turnover game/legspeed.
        His natural game is like Cameron who Uses leading patterns (instead of contested pack marks) and accurate kicking. Geelong relies on the other tall forward to do the heavy stuff.

        Together they cover all bases and give multiple targets that are hard to control,

        We could really learn a lot from that Geelong debacle.

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        • Danjul
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1601

          Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          I think Danjul is pointing out the structure was better back then rather than Bruce was bad.
          Exactly. Our forwards were unstoppable. By this point of the season Bruce had 30 goals, Naughton had 30, Bont had 20, English had a dozen despite missing games. Treloar was kicking goals too. So many goals. So many wins.

          Get the ball into tall forwards quickly (ruck aspect) and they know how to deliver success.

          Living proof of what we should do.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18931

            Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

            Originally posted by Danjul
            His natural game is like Cameron who Uses leading patterns (instead of contested pack marks) and accurate kicking. Geelong relies on the other tall forward to do the heavy stuff.

            Together they cover all bases and give multiple targets that are hard to control,

            We could really learn a lot from that Geelong debacle.
            Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Danjul
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1601

              Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
              The video in another thread shows him kicking multiple goals from outside 50 , getting the ball from fast leads. Admittedly a lower standard but his finishing ability can’t be denied. Put him in the firsts and tell the midfielders to honour his leads. Count the goals.

              Or waste his talent. Glad it’s not my choice.

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              • Nuggety Back Pocket
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 2064

                Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Cameron is much more dynamic. Has tons of speed. Shack is a bit of a plodder.
                Schache is a leading forward but given our poor delivery into the forward line often gets bypassed. His kicking for goal is superb in direct contrast to Naughton. Would rarely be seen flying with either Bruce or Naughton.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18931

                  Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                  Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                  Schache is a leading forward but given our poor delivery into the forward line often gets bypassed. His kicking for goal is superb in direct contrast to Naughton. Would rarely be seen flying with either Bruce or Naughton.
                  He would've kicked 70 goals every year in the 90s
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5601

                    Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                    You can compare the style of Schache (75 goals from 68 games, best year 24.8 from 14 games in 2019) to Cameron (503 goals from 198 games, averaging 2.53 per game with 6 out of 10 seasons 40+ goals) but you can't compare the results.

                    I would have Shack in the team this week, but let's not get too carried away about him being the difference.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66298

                      Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                      Originally posted by Grantysghost
                      I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
                      Yeah what happened to that Avatar.

                      To me McComb is improving every week, but he is not best 22/23 but a good back up to have.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Nuggety Back Pocket
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2064

                        Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                        Originally posted by jazzadogs
                        You can compare the style of Schache (75 goals from 68 games, best year 24.8 from 14 games in 2019) to Cameron (503 goals from 198 games, averaging 2.53 per game with 6 out of 10 seasons 40+ goals) but you can't compare the results.

                        I would have Shack in the team this week, but let's not get too carried away about him being the difference.
                        He will not be the difference but neither is our current structure. We need two genuine ruck men which includes Sweet and a second tall forward be it Schache until Bruce is fit again. There is also a lack of experience on the forward line with McComb McNeil and West. Players like Bont Dunkley and Treloar need to play more time forward to provide more experience and goal kicking abilities.
                        Until we get the balance right we can expect more of the same as was experienced against Geelong

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18931

                          Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Yeah what happened to that Avatar.

                          To me McComb is improving every week, but he is not best 22/23 but a good back up to have.
                          What avatar ?
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15234

                            Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            I love McNeil I was trying to be balanced.
                            I see what you did there…
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18931

                              Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              I see what you did there…
                              Can you let me know what it was?

                              Also why do you hate Levi so much I’m a huge advocate.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66298

                                Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                What avatar ?
                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Can you let me know what it was?

                                Also why do you hate Levi so much I’m a huge advocate.
                                Who is that old bloke?
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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