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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66186

    #46
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I believe Stevo tweeted that he thinks he will be back after the bye.
    Great news
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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15211

      #47
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

      Key considerations for my changes.

      *We seem to be too comfortable as an on-field group; thinking someone else will step up

      *A statement at selection needs to be made. One should have been made after the Adelaide game after such an insipid performance.

      *Focus on structure inside F50 like we have in D50

      IN: Sweet; Ugle-Hagan, Schache, Johannisen, R.Smith
      OUT: Smith (suspended), Gardner (inj), McComb, Khamis, Dunkley

      Five changes is overkill but two are forced.

      Sweet comes in as 2nd ruck to assist with keeping structure in our F50. McComb to make way.

      JJ to add some more speed & defensive pressure in our F50.

      R.Smith to replace Dunkley who had a chance in the first quarter to make a ground ball a 50/50 contest with Cameron but chose to step sidewards.

      Ugle-Hagan to play ahead of Khamis.

      B: Richards, Schache, O’Brien

      HB: Daniel, Keath, Dale

      C: Williams, Macrae, Scott

      HF: Johannisen, Ugle-Hagan, Treloar

      F: West, Naughton, Weightman

      R: English, Bontempelli, Liberatore 

      Int: Duryea, Sweet, R.Smith, McNeil
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44344

        #48
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

        That's a tough call on Dunks Aza.
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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15211

          #49
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          That's a tough call on Dunks Aza.
          It is a very tough call. I am sick of the same core senior midfield group getting pantsed and taking so long to react. There has been a problem with selection integrity since round 1. Hunter should not have played as the sub but he did.

          It is clear to me the group is too comfortable and are not held accountable for their lack of performance on field.

          It is highly likely we miss finals which will be a huge disappointment and failure.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66186

            #50
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

            Originally posted by azabob
            Key considerations for my changes.

            *We seem to be too comfortable as an on-field group; thinking someone else will step up

            *A statement at selection needs to be made. One should have been made after the Adelaide game after such an insipid performance.

            *Focus on structure inside F50 like we have in D50

            IN: Sweet; Ugle-Hagan, Schache, Johannisen, R.Smith
            OUT: Smith (suspended), Gardner (inj), McComb, Khamis, Dunkley

            Five changes is overkill but two are forced.

            Sweet comes in as 2nd ruck to assist with keeping structure in our F50. McComb to make way.

            JJ to add some more speed & defensive pressure in our F50.

            R.Smith to replace Dunkley who had a chance in the first quarter to make a ground ball a 50/50 contest with Cameron but chose to step sidewards.

            Ugle-Hagan to play ahead of Khamis.

            B: Richards, Schache, O’Brien

            HB: Daniel, Keath, Dale

            C: Williams, Macrae, Scott

            HF: Johannisen, Ugle-Hagan, Treloar

            F: West, Naughton, Weightman

            R: English, Bontempelli, Liberatore 

            Int: Duryea, Sweet, R.Smith, McNeil
            My comments

            * Adelaide game we had 12 on injury list so difficult to make a statement - especially in a 1 point game.

            * Roarke has been out of form for a long time - no thanks

            * Dunks - not sure what incident in the first quarter, but he was one of our best in the following 3 quarters

            * Sweet - well debatable whether he should come in. Even at VFL level can't get hands on ball.

            JJ, Schache, JUH - agree
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44344

              #51
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

              Originally posted by azabob
              It is a very tough call. I am sick of the same core senior midfield group getting pantsed and taking so long to react. There has been a problem with selection integrity since round 1. Hunter should not have played as the sub but he did.

              It is clear to me the group is too comfortable and are not held accountable for their lack of performance on field.

              It is highly likely we miss finals which will be a huge disappointment and failure.
              Some interesting and strong comments so I'm appreciative that you have presented them in the manner you have.
              I still wouldn't drop Dunkley on one bad game or on one less than impressive act.
              I see him as a leader of this club and the coaches should point out what he needs to do and he can bring others in the playing group along with him.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Danjul
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2019
                • 1601

                #52
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                Originally posted by bornadog
                My comments

                * Adelaide game we had 12 on injury list so difficult to make a statement - especially in a 1 point game.

                * Roarke has been out of form for a long time - no thanks

                * Dunks - not sure what incident in the first quarter, but he was one of our best in the following 3 quarters

                * Sweet - well debatable whether he should come in. Even at VFL level can't get hands on ball.

                JJ, Schache, JUH - agree
                just a small complaint about the use of the word ‘on’.

                Sweet had over 35? hitouts and a dozen disposals. And was a significant factor in Footscray’s win.

                And the only reason we have anything to look forward to in the 2022 season is his ruck work in a couple of games. I’m eternally grateful.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44344

                  #53
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  It is a very tough call. I am sick of the same core senior midfield group getting pantsed and taking so long to react. There has been a problem with selection integrity since round 1. Hunter should not have played as the sub but he did.

                  It is clear to me the group is too comfortable and are not held accountable for their lack of performance on field.

                  It is highly likely we miss finals which will be a huge disappointment and failure.

                  I just read that Kane Cornes has also made a similar assessment so it's gathering momentum.
                  If so, that really falls onto coaches and the leadership players to address it.

                  Is it shades of 2017 that we think it's just going to click for us or is we have lost a bit of passion to fight it out?
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66186

                    #54
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I just read that Kane Cornes has also made a similar assessment so it's gathering momentum.
                    If so, that really falls onto coaches and the leadership players to address it.

                    Is it shades of 2017 that we think it's just going to click for us or is we have lost a bit of passion to fight it out?
                    You don't think we fought it out on Friday. We dominated the last 3 quarters, but coming back from a woeful first quarter of 40 points down is not easy.

                    As for Kane Cornes, he is still sooking about Port being thrashed in the prelim. The guy purposely tries to create controversy. I wouldn't listen to anything he has got to say.
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                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66186

                      #55
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                      Originally posted by Danjul
                      just a small complaint about the use of the word ‘on’.

                      Sweet had over 35? hitouts and a dozen disposals. And was a significant factor in Footscray’s win.

                      And the only reason we have anything to look forward to in the 2022 season is his ruck work in a couple of games. I’m eternally grateful.
                      I know you like to defend Sweet, but if he is going to be a first ruck or even a second ruck, he must do more around the ground. The is his challenge.

                      English has been averaging over 20 disposals per game and 6 marks, plus kicks a goal almost every game. Sweet is no where near this, AFL or VFL
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21590

                        #56
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I just read that Kane Cornes has also made a similar assessment so it's gathering momentum.
                        If so, that really falls onto coaches and the leadership players to address it.

                        Is it shades of 2017 that we think it's just going to click for us or is we have lost a bit of passion to fight it out?
                        Bugger that, I'm changing my opinion to Bevo needs a senior assistant and a change in tactics!
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21590

                          #57
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                          Originally posted by Danjul
                          just a small complaint about the use of the word ‘on’.

                          Sweet had over 35? hitouts and a dozen disposals. And was a significant factor in Footscray’s win.

                          And the only reason we have anything to look forward to in the 2022 season is his ruck work in a couple of games. I’m eternally grateful.
                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I know you like to defend Sweet, but if he is going to be a first ruck or even a second ruck, he must do more around the ground. The is his challenge.

                          English has been averaging over 20 disposals per game and 6 marks, plus kicks a goal almost every game. Sweet is no where near this, AFL or VFL
                          It's going to be a conflicted week for Danjul, given both Schache and Sweet have claims on a second ruck spot but only one will get it!

                          I don't think we'll take both in, it will be interesting to see what the coaches do.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            #58
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                            After a terrific game for Footscray surely Schache has to come in as forward/ 2nd ruck. We should stick with him too and not drop him after one or two games as we have done in the past.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15211

                              #59
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              I just read that Kane Cornes has also made a similar assessment so it's gathering momentum.
                              If so, that really falls onto coaches and the leadership players to address it.

                              Is it shades of 2017 that we think it's just going to click for us or is we have lost a bit of passion to fight it out?
                              I honestly haven’t caught up with his comments.

                              By the end of next round it is likely we will be sitting 10th. Simply put, not good enough.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15211

                                #60
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                You don't think we fought it out on Friday. We dominated the last 3 quarters, but coming back from a woeful first quarter of 40 points down is not easy.
                                BAD why were we 40 points down? Forget about coming back being hard.

                                Bevo spoke pregame about winning and going into the bye on a wining note.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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