Rory Lobb

[GVGjr]

Re: Rory Lobb

We made a commitment to Lobb before the trade period but we currently are unlikely to satisfy Freo's request for a pick inside of the first 22. How hard should we push this to try and get a deal over the line? Is it #30 or nothing or do we need to sweeten it?

[Happy Days]

Re: Rory Lobb

We made a commitment to Lobb before the trade period but we currently are unlikely to satisfy Freo's request for a pick inside of the first 22. How hard should we push this to try and get a deal over the line? Is it #30 or nothing or do we need to sweeten it?

Before anyone points it out, I know it’s logically inconsistent to say that we shouldn’t offer more to satisfy Freo while also saying that Brisbane need to figure out a way to get two firsts for Dunkley. But pick 30 for a 30 year old Lobb is absolutely a reasonable offer and even though I think he’s a good player I’m not so wedded to the deal that we should overpay.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Rory Lobb

We made a commitment to Lobb before the trade period but we currently are unlikely to satisfy Freo's request for a pick inside of the first 22. How hard should we push this to try and get a deal over the line? Is it #30 or nothing or do we need to sweeten it?

If we've been orchestrating it and offered him a good contract we need to pony up

Personally I think we just offer 30, however Freo have the extra lever of the contract.

[Mofra]

Re: Rory Lobb

Wait and see. Rayner is worth about $450,000, while Dunkley with worth $750,000 (x 6 years) to Brisbane's list manager. I think they would get a future pick back, perhaps as high as our second. But don't accept a Brisbane line that are worth the same on the open market. They themselves see a huge difference between the two.

Raynor is close to their most untouchable player (at least until Ashcroft is on board). McLuggage and Raynor would probably be the two.
We'd need a Tom Boyd deal to get him to us.

[Mofra]

Re: Rory Lobb

If we've been orchestrating it and offered him a good contract we need to pony up

Personally I think we just offer 30, however Freo have the extra lever of the contract.

I'd expecting pick swaps get us a mid-20s pick to up the Lobb offer. 30 + 39 and perhaps a swap of future picks.

[Topdog]

Re: Rory Lobb

If we've been orchestrating it and offered him a good contract we need to pony up

Personally I think we just offer 30, however Freo have the extra lever of the contract.

Pick 30 for a bloke that turns 30 before he'd play his first game for us is actually ponying up.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Rory Lobb

Pick 30 for a bloke that turns 30 before he'd play his first game for us is actually ponying up.

Sounds about right doesn't it, tenth in their B and F so not like it's their best player.

[jeemak]

Re: Rory Lobb

I suggested an early to mid second is his value, about 25-28. Not sure how we get there.

[Bornadog]

Re: Rory Lobb

I suggested an early to mid second is his value, about 25-28. Not sure how we get there.

That sounds about right. Our 27 has been pushed out to 30 and could go further out.

[Mofra]

Re: Rory Lobb

I suggested an early to mid second is his value, about 25-28. Not sure how we get there.

30 + 39 to West Coast for 26?
30 + 39 to St Kilda for 28 and 47?

[jeemak]

Re: Rory Lobb

30 + 39 to West Coast for 26?
30 + 39 to St Kilda for 28 and 47?

Either of those would be awesome compared to giving up 21 should we receive it. I think if we landed a guy in quality career best form in a tough position to fill at 26-28 we should be happy.

Do either the WCE or StK need points?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Rory Lobb

30 + 39 to West Coast for 26?
30 + 39 to St Kilda for 28 and 47?

Options a plenty. Hawks 24 & 52 too.

I like the Saints you suggest if Freo take 28. If Brisbane burn six picks inside the 47 for two matched bids, the net effect is 47 comes into 43.

If WCE get something later that could be good.

How hard do Freo really want to push it. What’s reasonable on our end making sure we respect Lobb’s public call to play for us.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Rory Lobb

I feel like both Freo and the Bulldogs want to get their main deals done in Dunkley and Jackson, before they reasses their hands and finalise the Lobb deal. We may need to shuffle picks but I think ultimately the deal gets done.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Rory Lobb

Will be interesting to see Freos evolvement here.

They've transitioned from 'we won't trade him' to 'pick 30 isn't enough '.

Getting less for Dunkley and overpaying for Lobb is a hard one to swallow, both look likely. Lobbs worth really is no more than about pick 27-32 IMO.

[soupman]

Re: Rory Lobb

I don't think pick 21 for Lobb is unreasonable. Sure he's 30 but even 2 good season playing a difficult rand somewhat unique role in a side that is trying to challenge is probably 70% more likely to be better than anything a pick 21 player produces.

Draft picks are severely overrated, which again is why I'm amazed how cheap players are being traded for. Acres for pick 40 odd is amazing value, Logue for pick 19ish is amazing.

Top 30 draft picks are important in getting talent onto your list, but in and of themselves they are a lucky dip that is rigged against the club.

I'd honestly be surprised if there is even a statistically big difference between pick 21 and 30.