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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44571

    Re: Rory Lobb

    Originally posted by Swoop
    I believe Freo's stance won't change until they have secured Jackson.
    Good call Swoop, lets see how committed they are once they have to cough up for Jackson.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44571

      Re: Rory Lobb

      Just reading that Freo's offer to Blake Acres was 180K and this was due to salary cap pressures.
      We have to be a bit more confident that the Lobb deal could get done given it's speculated he's on 750K next season.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9879

        Re: Rory Lobb

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Just reading that Freo's offer to Blake Acres was 180K and this was due to salary cap pressures.
        We have to be a bit more confident that the Lobb deal could get done given it's speculated he's on 750K next season.
        Talking with some people who are Freo supporters a few weeks back say that it's a front ended deal and his last 2 years were on the lower scale. If that is correct I doubt it would be 750k

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18964

          Re: Rory Lobb

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Just reading that Freo's offer to Blake Acres was 180K and this was due to salary cap pressures.
          We have to be a bit more confident that the Lobb deal could get done given it's speculated he's on 750K next season.
          180k! That's insulting for the year he had.

          They've moved on 3 players now might be enough to keep Lobb.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11226

            Re: Rory Lobb

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Just reading that Freo's offer to Blake Acres was 180K and this was due to salary cap pressures.
            We have to be a bit more confident that the Lobb deal could get done given it's speculated he's on 750K next season.
            Wow.

            That's not quite Collingwood levels of incompetence, but it's poor management of your list (which honestly isn't that good) to need to offer Acres 180K and lose two other senior players for next to nothing.
            W00F!

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44571

              Re: Rory Lobb

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              Wow.

              That's not quite Collingwood levels of incompetence, but it's poor management of your list (which honestly isn't that good) to need to offer Acres 180K and lose two other senior players for next to nothing.
              I'm confident it's not incompetence just that things are tight and they believe they can cover him with other players.
              I don't agree with this approach but Carlton offered Acres twice the amount and a 3 year deal and Freo chose not to match it.
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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11226

                Re: Rory Lobb

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I'm confident it's not incompetence just that things are tight and they believe they can cover him with other players.
                I don't agree with this approach but Carlton offered Acres twice the amount and a 3 year deal and Freo chose not to match it.
                For mine it says they clearly overpay their top end too much, and more specifically, what they are going to pay Jackson is beyond his actual worth.
                W00F!

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5107

                  Re: Rory Lobb

                  Also even on twice that much the offer we had to beat was $360K at Carlton and a future third round pick in a position we have no clear AFL level players in and are discussing trying to convert Schache into?

                  I really hope we at least had a go.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11118

                    Re: Rory Lobb

                    Does Freo bringing in Corbett from Gold Coast help ever so slightly? Different players but more forward depth. Obviously we need the Jackson domino to fall, but maybe there is still a chance.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44571

                      Re: Rory Lobb

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      Does Freo bringing in Corbett from Gold Coast help ever so slightly? Different players but more forward depth. Obviously we need the Jackson domino to fall, but maybe there is still a chance.
                      I think it might factor into their thinking. Not sure if it's enough to get the conversations flowing though.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44571

                        Re: Rory Lobb

                        I saw a news report that we had offered pick 30 for Lobb but instead of a refusal they said they wanted something in the 15 to 22 range. I assume that is to help satisfy Melbourne. Need to hold firm on this one as well.

                        If we trade 30 and something else much later for Brisbane's pick 21 we could probably get this deal over the line.

                        Ryan Daniels
                        @FootyRhino
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                        The Rory Lobb deal to @westernbulldogs is yet to develop.

                        Current offer of pick 30 from the Dogs has been rejected by @freodockers - if that remains the offer, Lobb would remain at Freo.

                        Dockers likely to command a pick in the 15-22 range for their contracted forward.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66570

                          Re: Rory Lobb

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I saw a news report that we had offered pick 30 for Lobb but instead of a refusal they said they wanted something in the 15 to 22 range. I assume that is to help satisfy Melbourne. Need to hold firm on this one as well.

                          If we trade 30 and something else much later for Brisbane's pick 21 we could probably get this deal over the line.

                          Ryan Daniels
                          @FootyRhino
                          ·
                          2h
                          The Rory Lobb deal to @westernbulldogs is yet to develop.

                          Current offer of pick 30 from the Dogs has been rejected by @freodockers - if that remains the offer, Lobb would remain at Freo.

                          Dockers likely to command a pick in the 15-22 range for their contracted forward.
                          BY rejecting 30 and talking about 15 to 21 means they will trade at the right price
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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Rory Lobb

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I saw a news report that we had offered pick 30 for Lobb but instead of a refusal they said they wanted something in the 15 to 22 range. I assume that is to help satisfy Melbourne. Need to hold firm on this one as well.

                            If we trade 30 and something else much later for Brisbane's pick 21 we could probably get this deal over the line.

                            Ryan Daniels
                            @FootyRhino
                            ·
                            2h
                            The Rory Lobb deal to @westernbulldogs is yet to develop.

                            Current offer of pick 30 from the Dogs has been rejected by @freodockers - if that remains the offer, Lobb would remain at Freo.

                            Dockers likely to command a pick in the 15-22 range for their contracted forward.
                            If 21 is the clincher, then we should do it.

                            Pick 21 = 878 DP’s into Pick 30 (Brisbane -249 DPs)
                            Pick 56 into out Pick 39 (Brisbane + 252 DP’s plus Pick 69 for 49 DP’s = Brisbane +52 Dp’s)

                            Swap our 30 & 39 - for - 21 & 56

                            Dogs: 11, 21, 56

                            - Keep 11
                            - Lobb (Pick 21 & Future 4th - for - Lobb & Future 4th tied to North (upgrading our future 4th))
                            - Jones
                            - Player (Rayner, Lohmann etc, holding first round value)
                            - Hunter pick?
                            - Pick 56

                            - Future First
                            - Future 4th upgrade above from Freo
                            = 2023 First x 2, Second, Third, Fourth (North as good as a late third rounder)

                            Brisbane help us get Lobb while getting 52 more DP’s. Future First. Player of First Round Value. Everyone walks away with something.


                            Edit:

                            Brisbane have all their draft points needs covered.
                            By burning so many mix round picks, the downgrade from Pick 39 to 56 will likely mean the pick is a little bit higher for us to use. So the difference isn’t as great.
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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11866

                              Re: Rory Lobb

                              21 is overs for a forward whose career best season was kicking 36 goals and who is now 29 years old. Ruck ability fills a need and makes him more valuable than just the goals but... it's overs by a fair way. 30 is marginally over TBH but once bids and stuff come in it's probably about right.
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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18964

                                Re: Rory Lobb

                                21 is a little high, but you have to pay so do it I say.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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