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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44441

    Re: Rory Lobb

    Originally posted by kruder
    Lobb will be at the Bulldogs next year I reckon.
    Do you mean he will stay in Fremantle until his contract expires or that the trade will be made by Wednesday?
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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13214

      Re: Rory Lobb

      Lobb will be playing at the Bulldogs next year. I agree the news is suggesting Freo are open to it and are holding out on a 20-25 if they can get that.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • kruder
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2011
        • 3810

        Re: Rory Lobb

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Do you mean he will stay in Fremantle until his contract expires or that the trade will be made by Wednesday?
        Just classic rhetoric this one, if Jackson is done then Lobb will be coming. They haven't wanted him all year.

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        • MrMahatma
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 3967

          Re: Rory Lobb

          Originally posted by kruder
          Just classic rhetoric this one, if Jackson is done then Lobb will be coming. They haven't wanted him all year.
          To be fair, Jackson isn’t playing most of Lobb’s role. If I was Freo, I’d be holding onto Lobb (and prob offering Schache a min contract also cause FML he’s gonna kick 50 a year with them fo sho!)

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Rory Lobb

            Sam Landsberger:

            Pick 30 isn’t moving Freo to trade Lobb
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66354

              Re: Rory Lobb

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Sam Landsberger:

              Pick 30 isn’t moving Freo to trade Lobb
              Can we give them a F3 as well?
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              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Rory Lobb

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Can we give them a F3 as well?
                I suppose if want to.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66354

                  Re: Rory Lobb

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  I suppose if want to.
                  Tell you the truth, I don't know what he is worth
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Rory Lobb

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Tell you the truth, I don't know what he is worth
                    Somewhere between their demand (pick 21 somehow off Lions) and our offer of Pick 30.

                    If for argument sake Lions offer Future First & Player to us. Then a pick/points swap of 21 and later Pick say 55 (assuming 48 is off to the Hawks) for 30 & 39 to secure Lobb with Pick 21, in reality to us is Pick 30 and a 16 pick downgrade (less after Lions exhaust picks, maybe a 12-13 pick downgrade only). That seems about right. Pick 30 and a smidge more. Best case a late future pick back, but it’s not absolutely critical.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10115

                      Re: Rory Lobb

                      He’s worth pick 30. That’s a good pick and also happens to be the age Lobb will be next season. I wouldn’t be paying a cent more.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9999

                        Re: Rory Lobb

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Sam Landsberger:

                        Pick 30 isn’t moving Freo to trade Lobb
                        Do you think if we offer Vezpremi as well it'll get it over the line?
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10115

                          Re: Rory Lobb

                          Originally posted by EasternWest
                          Do you think if we offer Vezpremi as well it'll get it over the line?
                          Why would we do that. He’s just about to turn the corner.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21717

                            Re: Rory Lobb

                            Originally posted by EasternWest
                            Do you think if we offer Vezpremi as well it'll get it over the line?
                            I wouldn't do it just when he's one pre season away from really coming into his own.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • boydogs
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5842

                              Re: Rory Lobb

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              If there’s three mature players coming in, and we believe the premiership window is open next year. I would put the Brisbane future first on the table for another good player (in position of need). Try to bring in 4 best 22 players while holding 2022 & 2023 first rounders. We have the trade capital and some cap space. If we are contending then let’s be brave while holding top picks for two years to bring in fresh top talent.
                              I've seen a lot of talk about whether we are contending and therefore should top up with mature players, or whether we are way off and need to hit the draft. But I haven't seen the salary cap banking system mentioned. Clubs can use between 95-105% of the salary cap. Being brave and going all in to me would include using 105% of the cap, not just what we do with trades and drafting
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Rory Lobb

                                Originally posted by boydogs
                                I've seen a lot of talk about whether we are contending and therefore should top up with mature players, or whether we are way off and need to hit the draft. But I haven't seen the salary cap banking system mentioned. Clubs can use between 95-105% of the salary cap. Being brave and going all in to me would include using 105% of the cap, not just what we do with trades and drafting
                                My understanding of cap banking is that clubs at a minimum, must use 95%. If a club uses the bare 95%, they can bank the 5% for the next two seasons for future use. So whilst it’s 105% in a given year, the average cap over the three years never exceeds 100% of the cap. Clubs can continue to essentially keep rolling they bank ahead by paying players early and having the bank materialise in later years.

                                If we have some cap banked, then you’re dead right, there’s extra cap space to chase players. Assuming Lobb comes and Dunkley goes (maybe if Hunter moves too) then Power has a few options. He can offer the money for a player/s not linked to us publicly yet, he can bank the cap next year which could be a piggy bank for looking at free agents in 2023 (Ben McKay & Himmelberg look the best potentials), or he can restructure some 2023 contracts (players will be happy to get rich sooner) and push the bank down the road.

                                Not know the exact cap situation, Sam hasn’t emailed me yet, then I think you’re right generally about being brave if we believe our window open makes sense. Clearly bringing in two 30 years olds (Jones & Lobb) we can assume we think our window is right now so using any bank and money Dunkley rejected for a good player makes sense, as you say. I hope we are trying to pry our Rayner or looking to bring in another best 22/23 player for 2023. If not, restructure for next year, and do what The Doctor wants and shower Ben McKay in cash.

                                Good pick up.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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