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[bulldogtragic]

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It did smell of the Hawks game last year.

That is the trend lately.

Yep. This side, like the last time we had a top 4 spot there to win, just shit the bed and blew the opportunity. Why can’t a Bevo team just take the opportunity?

[mighty_west]

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Bumping this again because nothing has changed. Again Finals is a minimum. Losing the first final isn’t good enough to maintain the status quo. Something is missing from the coaching box. Are the praises are too high and the blasts aren’t there when they are needed?

No a lot has changed and changed quite a bit if you compare to the last few seasons, yeah shit performance today and maybe the team just got ahead of itself? You play like we have over the past few months with a couple of bad hiccups to see things are improving and with todays loss we put ourselves in a vulnerable position.

What is missing from the coaches box do you see?

[SonofScray]

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Top 4 is gone.

Plenty had that as a pass mark.

I will settle for a finals berth, and at least one finals win. He can see out the contract under those circumstances.

If we miss, or we make it and get another loss like GWS, or Freo finals in recent history, then I would want to wrap it up. But we won’t. He’s here to stay. 2 year extension coming up.

[Grantysghost]

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Yep. This side, like the last time we had a top 4 spot there to win, just shit the bed and blew the opportunity. Why can’t a Bevo team just take the opportunity?

21 as well.

[bulldogtragic]

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21 as well.

Yep. Fight to finish top four and just blow it. Again.

[jazzadogs]

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Bevos coaching got us 16 more inside 50s, 1 more scoring shots, 3 more clearances - and the players converted at 33%.

This wasn't a game where we got dominated, gave up, outcoached - we just blew opportunity after opportunity to alter the course of the game.

It's very frustrating and if the season ends with more results like today then questions are deserved. But we've just put together one of the best months in Bevo's tenure (there's some strong competition in that category), with a high intensity gameplan which seemed to be clicking and is well suited to finals - I'm not kicking him out the door today.

[JanLorMill]

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No a lot has changed and changed quite a bit if you compare to the last few seasons, yeah shit performance today and maybe the team just got ahead of itself? You play like we have over the past few months with a couple of bad hiccups to see things are improving and with todays loss we put ourselves in a vulnerable position.

What is missing from the coaches box do you see?

It was more a question. I don?t see how we can?t improve our goal kicking. I know the coaches don?t kick for goal but the players seemed to have escaped scrutiny for terrible kicking this season.

I?d us to win ugly every now and then when required in a hard spot. Port did it, gws did and Geelong too. Last time we did on the road or against a good opponent? It?s either feast or famine.

As for what not changed, it?s more about we can progress with Bevo. We had a chance to sure his position today.

[jeemak]

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What type of coach are we looking for?

One to change or refine the game plan, or one who can get the players in a headspace that enables them to show up weekly?

Our personnel issues aside (because we still have them irrespective of Lobb going back and Richards playing on the ball), at times this year we've been able to keep good teams to low scores while kicking high scores ourselves. That says to me the game plan is sound when everyone on the field concentrates and applies themselves. Even today with a breakdown in team defence we had 27 to 26 scoring shots. So again, even when off colour we can get ourselves opportunities to score.

Onto the players, they've demonstrated they can execute the game plan, even under duress. How much responsibility do they need to take, and how much can another coach impact the group without radically changing the game plan? Is there another coach out there who can sustainably connect with a playing group to ensure they're consistent week in, week out?

To me the lapses in performance are between the ears and largely fall on the players because we have seen that they can deliver some of the most frugal and yet attacking football of the year, and beat good teams in the process.

[JanLorMill]

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Bevos coaching got us 16 more inside 50s, 1 more scoring shots, 3 more clearances - and the players converted at 33%.

This wasn't a game where we got dominated, gave up, outcoached - we just blew opportunity after opportunity to alter the course of the game.

It's very frustrating and if the season ends with more results like today then questions are deserved. But we've just put together one of the best months in Bevo's tenure (there's some strong competition in that category), with a high intensity gameplan which seemed to be clicking and is well suited to finals - I'm not kicking him out the door today.

How can you really tell? We looked beaten from the start, flat and expecting things to just work. No changed were made 2 weeks in a row in a danger game.

[jeemak]

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Bevos coaching got us 16 more inside 50s, 1 more scoring shots, 3 more clearances - and the players converted at 33%.

This wasn't a game where we got dominated, gave up, outcoached - we just blew opportunity after opportunity to alter the course of the game.

It's very frustrating and if the season ends with more results like today then questions are deserved. But we've just put together one of the best months in Bevo's tenure (there's some strong competition in that category), with a high intensity gameplan which seemed to be clicking and is well suited to finals - I'm not kicking him out the door today.

A bit of scoreboard pressure in the first half and it's possibly a different game, or at least, one where we could say we hung in there but didn't quite get it right.

[Grantysghost]

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Bevos coaching got us 16 more inside 50s, 1 more scoring shots, 3 more clearances - and the players converted at 33%.

This wasn't a game where we got dominated, gave up, outcoached - we just blew opportunity after opportunity to alter the course of the game.

It's very frustrating and if the season ends with more results like today then questions are deserved. But we've just put together one of the best months in Bevo's tenure (there's some strong competition in that category), with a high intensity gameplan which seemed to be clicking and is well suited to finals - I'm not kicking him out the door today.

Great post JD.

Let's pump North and get this show back on the road.

I've de soured and sweetened.

[JanLorMill]

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What type of coach are we looking for?

One to change or refine the game plan, or one who can get the players in a headspace that enables them to show up weekly?

Our personnel issues aside (because we still have them irrespective of Lobb going back and Richards playing on the ball), at times this year we've been able to keep good teams to low scores while kicking high scores ourselves. That says to me the game plan is sound when everyone on the field concentrates and applies themselves. Even today with a breakdown in team defence we had 27 to 26 scoring shots. So again, even when off colour we can get ourselves opportunities to score.

Onto the players, they've demonstrated they can execute the game plan, even under duress. How much responsibility do they need to take, and how much can another coach impact the group without radically changing the game plan? Is there another coach out there who can sustainably connect with a playing group to ensure they're consistent week in, week out?

To me the lapses in performance are between the ears and largely fall on the players because we have seen that they can deliver some of the most frugal and yet attacking football of the year, and beat good teams in the process.

Can’t just excuse the coaches for not seeing the players aren’t up today? Too much faith in them. What’s the Allan jeans line about sausages?

[jazzadogs]

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A bit of scoreboard pressure in the first half and it's possibly a different game, or at least, one where we could say we hung in there but didn't quite get it right.

100%. I'm not saying we win but even in the first quarter we kicked 1.4, Cody dropped a chest mark, Keays toepoked a goal...it could have been even at quarter time and then the game plays out differently.

Instead it was 20 points at quarter time, we started the second with three misses, and never got it back within 20 points for the whole game. Crows were able to play an attacking game plan because there was never any scoreboard heat on them.

[mighty_west]

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It was more a question. I don?t see how we can?t improve our goal kicking. I know the coaches don?t kick for goal but the players seemed to have escaped scrutiny for terrible kicking this season.

I?d us to win ugly every now and then when required in a hard spot. Port did it, gws did and Geelong too. Last time we did on the road or against a good opponent? It?s either feast or famine.

As for what not changed, it?s more about we can progress with Bevo. We had a chance to sure his position today.

Our goal kicking was dreadful 1000000% agree with that, i was talking more about the overall game style this season especially in the last few months, heck we were favorites or top two to win the flag last week that's how well we have played but yes, goal kicking was disgusting, it has to be all in the head doesn't it? I mean Naughton missed 1 but his goal kicking has improved this year, Darcy was the big one today missing too many gettable goals yet he's looked ok in recent weeks in front of the sticks, it's not like the club isn't addressing it with Johnno coming in, but not sure what you can change in the coaches box to address that issue mid game? They did send Buku forward who is a good set shot, just didn't have a shot and our forwards just didn't seem to separate enough always bombing it into a pack.

[mighty_west]

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Can’t just excuse the coaches for not seeing the players aren’t up today? Too much faith in them. What’s the Allan jeans line about sausages?

I reckon the coaching staff had every right to have faith in the players given the past month especially, don't you?