Sharp Axes

[GVGjr]

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Bucks has an ego that would not allow him to be an assistant.

You're probably right and there would be plenty of coaches that would never slide back to an assistants role but Buckley also has plenty of media opportunities that would pay well with zero stress.

[bulldogtragic]

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See this type of comment doesn?t wash with me.

When both players are in the VFL team they play as midfielders first and forwards as an afterthought, but when in the senior team they can?t sniff a spot in the midfield rotation because we go with the same players all the time.

Our 3 main midfielders in Libba, Treloar and Bont all win lots of possessions and clearances, but lots are dirty touches and dirty clearances (hack kicks and handballs) which don’t turn into scores and quite often leads to the opposition scoring because our forwards, bar Naughts don?t defend and our 3 mids don?t defend. Bont tackles extremely well in close, as does Libba, but their defensive transition work is crap.. and maybe you can cover one of them not defending, but when all 3 do it, well that can?t be covered and leaves our middling defensive group exposed to clean ball which they can?t handle, especially when Jones who covered over the gaps early doors is missing.

It?s time to change up the mix.

This fast becoming something consuming me, thinking about the chorus of need to recruit mids. But we took Smith top 10, West second round and traded up to get Garcia. Yet none at AFEL are playing midfield. Either with or without Dunkley in the rotations. We get VFL mids like Scott & McComb, then never play them as midfielders. Then we put Daniel in there which pushed them all back even further in the midfield pecking order. Right now unless your name is Bontempelli, Liberatore, Treloar, Macrae or Daniel you have not path to playing midfield in the AFEL at our club. All are getting big numbers and I expect them to be at this level again at least until next year maybe two years. So if there’s another two years of a midfielder playing VFL midfield minutes and then getting promoted to pockets and flanks, then demoted and yo-yo ‘d up and back, then why are we talking about acquiring midfielders when there’s already a multi year and multiplayer backlog and stunted development? It must be very frustrating if you’re an ambitious young midfielder at our club knowing it’s not going to happen here for you unless there’s an injury. Like a permanent understudy in a role you don’t want. So say we go and get some quick, pacey midfielders because they’re lining up to play for us - then what?

[Boots]

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Cornes and King on Bevo:

Main points:
- We load up forwards too much
- No intercept defender, Jones isn't enough
- Can't stop momentum run-ons
- Strange selections (JOD, Darcy)
- List is too good to waste
- What's Lobb for?
- Preseason mistakes

[Boots]

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Fox Footy on the premiership window:

Main points:
- Do so much at the coalface and win, but can't win the ball back or convert
- Only one option up forward this week and it was Naughton
- Too many easy scores going against us
- appalingly bad defensive structure towards the end of the match ('brain fade')
- Bont is great/a miracle/basically Jesus
- The list and system are good - is this a waste of potential
- The team is inconsistent and hard to figure out
- don't score as much as we should and can't defend with a top four list at minimum

[angelopetraglia]

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Main points:
- Do so much at the coalface and win, but can't win the ball back or convert
- Only one option up forward this week and it was Naughton
- Too many easy scores going against us
- appalingly bad defensive structure towards the end of the match ('brain fade')
- Bont is great/a miracle/basically Jesus
- The list and system are good - is this a waste of potential
- The team is inconsistent and hard to figure out
- don't score as much as we should and can't defend with a top four list at minimum

Do we have a top four list?

Kane defends Hinkley. Hinkley has played finals in 5 of 11 years. Zero GFs. He goes after Bevo. Played finals in 6 of 8 years. Two GFs. One Premiership.

Kane. Take a long walk off a short pier. You make everything about you. I'm frankly sick of the American style of sports journalism that Hutchy is driving at both SEN and the show he produces at Channel 9, where it is about promoting some over opinionated celebrity commentator. I thought Australian audiences were too smart to fall for this type of fake and loud storytelling.

Kane, you are also wrong more often than you are right (i.e. Taranto). Surely ones reputation is based on how often they are right not how outrageous your opinions are.

[Bornadog]

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Cornes and King on Bevo:

Main points:
- We load up forwards too much
- No intercept defender, Jones isn't enough
- Can't stop momentum run-ons
- Strange selections (JOD, Darcy)
- List is too good to waste
- What's Lobb for?
- Preseason mistakes

Cornes is actually a big goose - he is constantly bagging Bevo.

[Boots]

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Form memory, most of those points are King's.

I actually really like Cornes. Like anyone he has biases, but he backs his points up and he admits when he's wrong. He is also saying nothing but stuff I've read on this forum.

I can't say much for his attitude on Hinkley, and I think his calls for Bevo's head are maybe a tad overstated. To his credit, he often brings it back to Bevo's contract extension rather than outright saying he shoudl be sacked - though in this clip he certainly argues for him to be sacked so you have a point.

[EasternWest]

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Cornes is actually a big goose - he is constantly bagging Bevo.

You're right on both points, but that doesn't necessarily make him wrong.

The main points as listed are almost EXACTLY what gets lamented on this board over and over.

[Bornadog]

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You're right on both points, but that doesn't necessarily make him wrong.

The main points as listed are almost EXACTLY what gets lamented on this board over and over.

He is meant to be a professional and come up with some proper analysis.

and then this shit

how is Bevo still in a job? Got lucky for 4 weeks in 2016 and living off it since. GF 2021 from 5th. Meh. Keeps spinning magnets for no reason. Zero consistency. Players clearly confused. Underachieving

[angelopetraglia]

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He is meant to be a professional and come up with some proper analysis.

and then this shit

It is the Hutchy style. He spent time in the USA. He brought that style of journalism over here. Listen to the Howie Games Podcast on him. It is actually quite entertaining. I understand the commercial benefit of what he does, but it doesn't help educated followers of the game. This let's get everyone outraged commentator style. Searching for a headline rather than accuracy or any real analysis.

[Boots]

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He is meant to be a professional and come up with some proper analysis.

and then this shit

The problem with Cornes is that he's BOTH quite sensible AND a lunatic.

[EasternWest]

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He is meant to be a professional and come up with some proper analysis.

and then this shit

Is he wrong though? It's shit snarky language, but is he wrong?

I know because I'm asking you this question you'll obfuscate or deny, but we both know what the truth is.

[angelopetraglia]

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The problem with Cornes is that he's BOTH quite sensible AND a lunatic.

Agree. I try to run a bit. Run a few Marathons. I like following what Kane does in many elements of his life. It is quite inspirational and he does have some valid points. He is much better in a longer form podcast talking about things he knows incredibly well. He can be raw and honest. He also backs up a lot of what he says with action when it comes to running and his actual football when he was playing. He got the absolute most out of his god given ability.

However, it is less Kane and more the style of journalism that I dislike. It is just not for me. He is also clearly biased with his Port Power hat on and that is OK. We know what it is.

The hypocrisy between his opinion on Hinkley and Bevo is hard to swallow when you look at the facts.

[Bornadog]

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The problem with Cornes is that he's BOTH quite sensible AND a lunatic.

You forgot the word wanker.

[angelopetraglia]

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Is he wrong though? It's shit snarky language, but is he wrong?

I know because I'm asking you this question you'll obfuscate or deny, but we both know what the truth is.

What is the truth?

We have largely been an irrelevant club over the journey.

Bevo has made us relevant. We have played finals in 6 of 8 seasons. Two GFs. One Flag. That is the truth.

When Bevo arrived at the club the place was falling apart at the seams. Coach, captain and CEO all walked out the door. Did anyone rate our list? We finished 14th in 2014. We finished 15th in 2015. We finished 15th in 2014. We had not played finals for four years. That is the truth.

Bevo arrived. With a busted club and busted list. We go 14-8 season #1. Just lose a final. We go 15-7 season #2 and win the flag. Did Bevo have the best list in the land? No. I don't think anyone would support that. Is that luck? What type of revisionist history would say that Bevo got lucky. He turned this club 180 degrees out of nowhere. No one saw it coming or predicated it. That is the truth.

What is the truth now? Are the players playing for him? Definitely looks like it to me. Does he make some weird selection decisions. Yes. But he has done that since year #1. Does he try some players in different positions. Yes. But he has done that since year #1 too.

What are the other truths?