Sharp Axes

[GVGjr]

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I guess the hard midfield tag is just not something that coaches use too often but Ward really did a good job on Bont and curbed his influence after a dominating first quarter. I did notice Treloar putting some effort in on Kelly around stoppages so there would be some variations with how we approach it.

[jeemak]

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Why are we still fundamentally going with the same game plan?

Bevo has always stuck with his game plan and consistently refuses to recognise the defensive flaws of his flood your own forward line

The game plan in his mind would probably protect our defenders more than it exposes them. Take the ball around the wings, kick near side, lock it in. It's just when we compress too high that we get into trouble.

We don't always compress too high, but in cases where our structure is thrown into disarray like it was Saturday we'd be more prone to doing it.

[Bullies]

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Not sure why he did that, but I think it is common for Treloar.

I think if Treloar had his way he wouldn't be at the club. He didn't ask to go there and loved Collingwood. With his buddy Dunks no longer even more so and he is there because it is his job. He to me this year although he has played some good football just doesn't seem to be invested in the club.

[meenies]

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I think some players don't believe in the system/tactics the coaches have asked from them.

To me the combination of things are:
1. the team have lost confidence in the game plan. As witnessed by them continually not following it.
2. Bevo has lost the players or he has lost the delivery of the messaging. I have seen this in a few of the more recent "Bevo Briefings". I can understand him being flat post game but I watch his and the players body language and I don't think he has them anymore.
3. If the coaches believe we have the right cattle, see 1 and 2 above. If the coaches don't believe we have the cattle (like many posters here) then why do they insist on a game plan that it not compatible to the players strengths & abilities & limitations.

[GVGjr]

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I think if Treloar had his way he wouldn't be at the club. He didn't ask to go there and loved Collingwood. With his buddy Dunks no longer even more so and he is there because it is his job. He to me this year although he has played some good football just doesn't seem to be invested in the club.

I really think you are doing Treloar a disservice here. Attending so many training sessions I've seen how both professional and invested he is with us.

[meenies]

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I guess the hard midfield tag is just not something that coaches use too often but Ward really did a good job on Bont and curbed his influence after a dominating first quarter. I did notice Treloar putting some effort in on Kelly around stoppages so there would be some variations with how we approach it.

Should we have reinvented McComb as a tagger?

[GVGjr]

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Should we have reinvented McComb as a tagger?

It might have been worth trying but I can't see us being prepared to use this option much.

This weekend Hewett curbed Nick Daicos and Drew did for 3 quarters the week before.
Ward on Bont. The Saints threw a player back to limit Sicily and I think there were a few others as well.

So it can work without giving too much up.

[angelopetraglia]

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Caro now lining up on Bevo (again) https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status...130970113?s=20

[Go_Dogs]

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I hear you. I'm a bit the same with the claims that 'supporters are overrating the list'.
Basically the same list that got us into the 2021 GF less Dunks and Hunter.

Bevo is only a small part of the problem.

The ?same list? comment is an interesting one.

Setting aside that Dunks and Hunter had both been club champions, I?m not sure basically the same list is a good thing as the quality and output of a list is dynamic and many of the players who were critical to getting us to that point haven?t quite replicated those performances since. We?ve had growth in other areas and recruited to top up a few critical positions too, however the game moves quickly and based on performances this year, I think the club has overrated our list. We thought it was top 4 material, but it may only just be top 8 material and certainly is between 6-12 best lists on performance this season.

Again, it can and will change quickly as a list is only as good as the last season plus/minus the changes we make.



Back on the thread topic, I?m still not convinced that we find a better coach who has the special sauce to turn our existing list around. Maybe we can, maybe we can?t - who knows. Bevo has a few more weeks left to show us what he and the coaching team can do. Like I?ve said in here previously, I?m sure we are aware of what?s out there and will be having those discussions as every club would regardless of coaching status / contractual positions.

I don?t think we make a change,but who knows. I?m nowhere near close enough to the day to day, the level of engagement the players have and commitment to the strategy and game plan they?re being asked to execute.

[bulldogtragic]

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Caro now lining up on Bevo (again) https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status...130970113?s=20

All she said was she thought Bevo was outcoached on the weekend.

Lined up? Really? Many on here said the same thing. I feel dirty for semi defending Caro.

[Bullies]

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All she said was she thought Bevo was outcoached on the weekend.

Lined up? Really? Many on here said the same thing. I feel dirty for semi defending Caro.

He was definitely out coached. She said it as it is. Good for her as she says what she what she feels rather than the toe the standard ex player line.

[angelopetraglia]

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All she said was she thought Bevo was outcoached on the weekend.

Lined up? Really? Many on here said the same thing. I feel dirty for semi defending Caro.

She has a vendetta against him. Listen to the clip again. She also spoke about players leaving etc.

[bulldogtragic]

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He was definitely out coached.

Yep. I don’t like Caro as a journalist, but that grab wasn’t anything unfair. When I saw she apparently lined him up I was expecting some real BS. Maybe that’s for the episode later.

[angelopetraglia]

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Yep. I don’t like Caro as a journalist, but that grab wasn’t anything unfair. When I saw she apparently lined him up I was expecting some real BS. Maybe that’s for the episode later.

Valid point. I’m possibly already judging what she is going to say. But it will be coming. I don’t watch the show, but will see the clip on Twitter I’m sure.

[bulldogtragic]

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Valid point. I’m possibly already judging what she is going to say. But it will be coming. I don’t watch the show, but will see the clip on Twitter I’m sure.

I haven’t watched it in many years. It’s pretty much everything wrong with the footy media industry. Steel yourself, if/when we miss finals, the media blowtorch on Bevo will be cranked up to 11. It will not be fun.