Sharp Axes

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Sharp Axes

Hope he walks. Chris Grant doesn't have it in him to make a hard decision.

Chris Grant needs to walk too.

[SonofScray]

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Hope he walks. Chris Grant doesn't have it in him to make a hard decision.

Then he has to go too.

Grant OUT.
Bevo OUT.

[bulldogtragic]

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Then he has to go too.

Grant OUT.
Bevo OUT.

If it’s good enough to oust Bubba presumably because he’s been there too long and we need people, that’s a good enough argument for others too.

[GVGjr]

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I don't think Bevo is really the issue but our whole football department set-up doesn't appear to be working like it should.
I'll be interested in Bevo's take on today's heartbreaking loss

[bulldogtragic]

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I don't think Bevo is really the issue but our whole football department set-up doesn't appear to be working like it should.
I'll be interested in Bevo's take on today's heartbreaking loss

Another in a series of wasteful heart breaking losses to inferior talented teams…

[SonofScray]

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I don't think Bevo is really the issue but our whole football department set-up doesn't appear to be working like it should.
I'll be interested in Bevo's take on today's heartbreaking loss

Might be the case, but he is part of that set up and he is finished. The whole thing has to be blown up now.

We’ve had time and opportunity to get a different look at things and are being found wanting at every turn.

[Bullies]

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I don't think Bevo is really the issue but our whole football department set-up doesn't appear to be working like it should.
I'll be interested in Bevo's take on today's heartbreaking loss

Really. Do you think Bevo will say anything different than what he has said. Everyone has a used by date.

[GVGjr]

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Really. Do you think Bevo will say anything different than what he has said. Everyone has a used by date.

I agree with this in principle and I'm not scared to try an untested senior coach either but if we look deeper than the heartbreaking losses is it really just all on Bevo?

My trepidation to land it all on Bevo stems from the points I made on this thread on post #98

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?23657-Western-Bulldogs-accused-of-wasting-golden-era/page7

There were a lot of diversions on the thread that attacked the journo and questioned his integrity rather than being willing to look a bit deeper to the reasons why we aren't performing like we should. I think this is bigger than just Bevo but enjoy a good discussion on why removing him solves our issues. It might fix some peoples frustrations more than fixing the challenges of the club.

[jeemak]

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Between Baines, Watson Wheeler, Grant and Bevo we have turned ourselves into a bland, uninteresting, joyless and unreliable footy club.

That's even before I start on the players who just seem to take the piss quarter by quarter, week by week and refuse to be accountable for their performances.

Another weekend turned sour, well done you lot.

[azabob]

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Between Baines, Watson Wheeler, Grant and Bevo we have turned ourselves into a bland, uninteresting, joyless and unreliable footy club.

That's even before I start on the players who just seem to take the piss quarter by quarter, week by week and refuse to be accountable for their performances.

Another weekend turned sour, well done you lot.

When your two people at the top see their roles as stepping stones to corporate HQ that typically does not end well.

[azabob]

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Between Baines, Watson Wheeler, Grant and Bevo we have turned ourselves into a bland, uninteresting, joyless and unreliable footy club.

That's even before I start on the players who just seem to take the piss quarter by quarter, week by week and refuse to be accountable for their performances.

Another weekend turned sour, well done you lot.

Interesting jee. I’m sensing a change in your viewpoint.

[bulldogtragic]

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I want some hope. If the club ain’t gunna give it, well o reserve the right to quit footy again.

I have no hope if the plan is the same people doing the same thing next year. Already next year our gun recruits are VDM, Keath, Duryea & TOB…

[Boots]

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I agree with this in principle and I'm not scared to try an untested senior coach either but if we look deeper than than the heartbreaking losses is it really just all on Bevo?

My trepidation to land it all on Bevo stems from the points I made on this thread on post #98

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?23657-Western-Bulldogs-accused-of-wasting-golden-era/page7

There were a lot of diversions on the thread that attacked the journo and questioned his integrity rather than being willing to look a bit deeper to the reasons why we aren't performing like we should. I think this is bigger than just Bevo but enjoy a good discussion on why removing him solves our issues. It might fix some peoples frustrations more than fixing the challenges of the club.

Agreed GVGjr. I was on the 'sack Bevo' train after Rounds 1 and 2, but I'm not anymore. Take those two games out and, while not a great season or even a good one, it's not sack the coach territory.

Even when we miss finals (we are not beating Geelong at home and it's now necessary to make finals), I won't be on the sack Bevo train. It takes a lot to reinvent the game from a handball-heavy high press to a more balanced approach with more emphasis on kicking and a properly constructed forward line. Get a few other things right - like the club appears to be trying to do - and we'll be OK.

I'd like this awful season to end though. Our losses are sapping my interest in footy, and our wins are not all that inspiring. We've beaten only Brisbane and Carlton in the 8, and lost games to teams currently ranked 16, 15, 13, 11 and 9. Most of our wins came against teams we played twice and split the wins with (Richmond, Giants, Hawks), Freo (who we beat twice), North, and a couple of good games against Brisbane and Carlton. We're a desperately middle-of-the-road team and we can't even put away those teams lower on the ladder than us with any consistency.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I agree with this in principle and I'm not scared to try an untested senior coach either but if we look deeper than the heartbreaking losses is it really just all on Bevo?

My trepidation to land it all on Bevo stems from the points I made on this thread on post #98

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?23657-Western-Bulldogs-accused-of-wasting-golden-era/page7

There were a lot of diversions on the thread that attacked the journo and questioned his integrity rather than being willing to look a bit deeper to the reasons why we aren't performing like we should. I think this is bigger than just Bevo but enjoy a good discussion on why removing him solves our issues. It might fix some peoples frustrations more than fixing the challenges of the club.

Removing Bevo doesn't magically solve all our issues, but in any major sport, the buck stops with the head coach/manager. We can't remove/trade 20 odd players (though I hope we DO make a big turnover of the list), it's always easier to begin the period of change by removing the coach and his assistants.

This club needs a circuit breaker. We have fumbled and bumbled since 2021 and Bevo doesn't have the answers or the influence to correct these issues, evidenced no greater than today.

The club declared top 4 at the beginning of the year and now we probably miss finals altogether. Somebody needs to be held accountable, we can't live off 2016 forever and we should learn from a side like Collingwood with Buckley.

I really want to see us make multiple hard decisions though, which extends to the list. Pies had to/traded Treloar and Grundy and while they were different circumstances it hasn't hindered them whatsoever. If we apply the same logic, I don't see why we're scared of trading Macrae/Smith etc. It's a business (mostly) - players need to understand that, and our group particularly could do with a bit of resolve.

All in all, Bevo has had long enough to make corrections and he's failed miserably. We're under performing, we can't beat the better sides and we regularly drop games like today (see v Gold Coast, v Geelong, v Sydney).

[jeemak]

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Interesting jee. I’m sensing a change in your viewpoint.

Not really.

I think Bevo is a good coach and the right coach, but he needs strong leadership to be kept out of his own arse, and better players as I've mentioned before.