Sharp Axes

[Bulldog Joe]

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English and Naughton are off limits for me.

I see Naughton as one of our major issues.

He has chances to win games but fails too often to take them.

If he really wants to play key forward I trade him.

[mjp]

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Does this remove the ability for the players to self motivate?

I will maintain forever that you can't coach effort.

Not every loss is on the players - coaching (inc selection, game-plan, oppo planning etc) 100% play a part. To me, there were certainly elements in previous losses where you could point at the coaches - as I have been saying though, it's bloody hard to make changes when earlier in the game everything was humming along and it really should just be a matter of 'reset guys'...but clearly at times more forceful intervention needed to occur.

vs Hawthorn though, we came out after half time and got smacked around the ball and smacked outside the game. What is the coach actually supposed to do about that? You can move all the magnets you like but if you can't get the ball...

Our squad isn't perfect but no doubt our results should be better...we have some really challenging decisions to work through as the match-day outcomes are confusing...30 point leads into 6 point losses? Repeatedly?

It really does 'feel' like it's between the ears of the players...but is it between the ears of the coaching as well? Is there a disconnect between what the coach is saying and what the players are hearing? Cos there is sure as hell a difference between what he is saying and what they are doing...unless he is telling them not to worry about the ball - just run around and have fun...

[GVGjr]

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I do get the concerns with some of the levels of talent on our list, but the 22 that Colllingwood put out on the weekend had McStay and Mihocek playing key forward, an undersized Murphy and Billy Frampton playing key back and pretty 'honest' try-ers in Oleg Markov, John Noble, McCreery, Tom Mitchell, Taylor Adams and Lipinski.

Are we really that behind in talent in terms of the side we put out on the weekend?

I don't think the Pies list is anything special and they even dole out about 500K a year for other clubs to absorb some poor contract positions they put themselves in. What they do have is a game plan that is standing up, electric pace, buy in from all of their players, ageing stars who play within their limits and a number of role players who sacrifice their game each week.

On a player to player basis our list more than sticks up favorably against them but we keep dropping close games when the pressure is on compared to their self belief they can chase down any lead.

[AshMac]

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Can annyone explain to me why we didn?t put someone on Newcombe? They nullified Bont for the game (by his standards) and Libba whilst he was on the ground. I get it might not work - I don?t get why we never try it.

Also - our fitness coach has got to go. Our ability to run out 4 quarters in embarrassing.

Just did the ladder predictor and have us 9th playing Carlton. Intensity up and I don?t see where our lift comes from.

[DOG GOD]

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Can annyone explain to me why we didn?t put someone on Newcombe? They nullified Bont for the game (by his standards) and Libba whilst he was on the ground. I get it might not work - I don?t get why we never try it.

Also - our fitness coach has got to go. Our ability to run out 4 quarters in embarrassing.

Just did the ladder predictor and have us 9th playing Carlton. Intensity up and I don?t see where our lift comes from.

Agree 100%. Our player conditioning is shocking.
Bevo doesn’t tag. I think it’s really that simple, unfortunately.

[Bornadog]

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I see Naughton as one of our major issues.

He has chances to win games but fails too often to take them.

If he really wants to play key forward I trade him.

40 goals and 19 assists at 58% accuracy

[Bornadog]

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Can annyone explain to me why we didn?t put someone on Newcombe? They nullified Bont for the game (by his standards) and Libba whilst he was on the ground. I get it might not work - I don?t get why we never try it.

Also - our fitness coach has got to go. Our ability to run out 4 quarters in embarrassing.

Just did the ladder predictor and have us 9th playing Carlton. Intensity up and I don?t see where our lift comes from.

9th won't get us finals (typo or)

[EasternWest]

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Can annyone explain to me why we didn?t put someone on Newcombe? They nullified Bont for the game (by his standards) and Libba whilst he was on the ground. I get it might not work - I don?t get why we never try it.

Like it's actually maddening. At the very least if you run with a guy that's brought his own ball, logically then you're at least in with a chance to be near the ball and thus impact our chance to get it.

I'm not on the sack Beveridge train, but his absolute refusal to not do anything about players that are starching us, over and over and over again, is making me question my faith.

[josie]

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I know Naughton and Lobb did not kick gettable goals. I think most of our problem stemmed from 3rd qtr & start if 4th qtr when our intensity was shocking. If you cannot gain or win back possession you don’t have enough kicks at goal to make up for the inevitable inaccuracies. Even the best set shots like Hawkins, Cameron, Riewoldt miss sodas.

Still think we need a goal kicking coach though!! And a running and tackling one….

[josie]

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Yep, regarding tagging a player that is ripping us apart, when it?s a big contributor to losing a game I don?t care if it?s not sportsmanlike or whatever the reason is Bevo doesn?t tag. Enough already. He needs to be more flexible and less (imo) pig headed.

[Grantysghost]

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Like it's actually maddening. At the very least if you run with a guy that's brought his own ball, logically then you're at least in with a chance to be near the ball and thus impact our chance to get it.

I'm not on the sack Beveridge train, but his absolute refusal to not do anything about players that are starching us, over and over and over again, is making me question my faith.

Smith would have been the perfect guy to run with him.

[bulldogtragic]

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40 goals and 19 assists at 58% accuracy

So close to what Rory Lobb did last year. But reporting is it will cost us close to twice the money as Rory to keep Naughton. Currently Naughton is ranked 22nd in the comp for goal per game, average. Mostly because he misses sodas, despite years of training and practising forward skills.

Where’s the great ROI?

[EasternWest]

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Smith would have been the perfect guy to run with him.

GG, you or I or anyone would have been enough. Just someone actually DO something about it.

[jeemak]

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So close to what Rory Lobb did last year. But reporting is it will cost us close to twice the money as Rory to keep Naughton. Currently Naughton is ranked 22nd in the comp for goal per game, average. Mostly because he misses sodas, despite years of training and practising forward skills.

Where’s the great ROI?

Using averages a bit cute. He's ranked 12th for goals kicked.

That doesn't mean he should be paid $1M per year though.

[Mofra]

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Can annyone explain to me why we didn?t put someone on Newcombe?

We did - Treloar in the second half.

The problem being it was 30 minutes too late, and it was the wrong player to go to him.