Sharp Axes

[GVGjr]

Re: Sharp Axes

What's your thoughts now Joe? Has he done enough to keep his job for next season or do we need to see more of the season?

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Sharp Axes

What's your thoughts now Joe? Has he done enough to keep his job for next season or do we need to see more of the season?

The way things are looking my inclination is he can see out the contract.

[GVGjr]

Re: Sharp Axes

The way things are looking my inclination is he can see out the contract.

It's a real interesting position because if we assume that he starts the 2025 season as the coach then the media focus will be right on us in the early part of the season repeatedly asking the question if we are going to put another contract in front of him.
How the club and Bevo handle that be an interesting exercise. I would imagine Grant and Bains will need to front the media a lot more and if the decision is that we won't put another one in front of him I can't see him coaching out the season.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Sharp Axes

Bevo or No Bevo. This is the question.

I can accept that we are missing some serious talent and yes we?ll be better after the bye.

My issue and what I truly can not understand is he never has a plan B or changes things up.

Why not move Bont forward in the second quarter to break the tag. Why use the sub 10 minutes into the last quarter when the game is over. This list goes on. I get he backs in the guys but year after year he struggles to swallow his pride and hi with something different on game day.

He is always happy to go with different at selection table but not so brave on game day.

[azabob]

Re: Sharp Axes

Bevo or No Bevo. This is the question.

I can accept that we are missing some serious talent and yes we?ll be better after the bye.

My issue and what I truly can not understand is he never has a plan B or changes things up.

Why not move Bont forward in the second quarter to break the tag. Why use the sub 10 minutes into the last quarter when the game is over. This list goes on. I get he backs in the guys but year after year he struggles to swallow his pride and hi with something different on game day.

He is always happy to go with different at selection table but not so brave on game day.

I find the plan b discussion interesting.

Do other teams have a plan B mid game? I am not sure plan b is actually a thing and honestly I think there would be less than a handful of posters on woof would be able to truly spot a change mid game.

In the after match press a conference Beveridge said we changed some things up (again not sure we know enough of plan A detail to know what that was).

Not sure sending Bont forward would have changed our fortunes, our issue was winning the contested ball and lose ball. Taking away our best player from there would not be a move I would make.

Khamis was a sub purely for key position player back up. Bevo mentioned that it is not the best use of the sub but we needed to do it.

[azabob]

Re: Sharp Axes

Bevo or No Bevo. This is the question. .

In the most simplest form yes that is the question.

For mine we need to decide the answer this by the end of our last game in 2024.

If Beveridge coaches in 2025 and leaves during or after the 2025 season I honestly do not see the point of it. It would be akin to a gap year.

FWIW I am a Beveridge supporter and I believe in the direction we are heading. If we continue with the same trajectory in the second half of the season and continue playing younger players I think we should back him in.

It is a massive 12 weeks for the club both on and off field.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Sharp Axes

For mine it’s a simple equation.

If we MISS finals (which is very likely), then Bevo GOES end of year

If we MAKE finals, then Bevo STAYS to see out his contract

I’m still not convinced since GF of 21, that this squad is playing for the coach…the odd player yes, but as a team, no.

[mighty_west]

Re: Sharp Axes

I find the plan b discussion interesting.

Do other teams have a plan B mid game? I am not sure plan b is actually a thing and honestly I think there would be less than a handful of posters on woof would be able to truly spot a change mid game.

In the after match press a conference Beveridge said we changed some things up (again not sure we know enough of plan A detail to know what that was).

Not sure sending Bont forward would have changed our fortunes, our issue was winning the contested ball and lose ball. Taking away our best player from there would not be a move I would make.

Khamis was a sub purely for key position player back up. Bevo mentioned that it is not the best use of the sub but we needed to do it.

The issue for mine was that our structure was out of whack, we needed JOD back with Jones leaving his man free to do what he wanted, Bont was being heavily tagged and Libba hardly fired a shot so that put too much pressure on the other 2 starting mids, so give Bont Naughton's position and give West, Sanders, Garcia, Gags more mid time to mix it up a bit.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Sharp Axes

In the most simplest form yes that is the question.

For mine we need to decide the answer this by the end of our last game in 2024.

If Beveridge coaches in 2025 and leaves during or after the 2025 season I honestly do not see the point of it. It would be akin to a gap year.

FWIW I am a Beveridge supporter and I believe in the direction we are heading. If we continue with the same trajectory in the second half of the season and continue playing younger players I think we should back him in.

It is a massive 12 weeks for the club both on and off field.

I agree leaving into a rebuild would be dumb by the club. Either he goes at the end of year or give him an extension. There no being half pregnant with him now. He sees the rebuild out or we get someone new to see it through and change up the coaching style/ideas.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Sharp Axes

I’m still not convinced since GF of 21, that this squad is playing for the coach…the odd player yes, but as a team, no.

I think it?s difficult as players need to play for each other snd not the coach. I think we all know that Bevo has backed in many players that we all have questioned over the years.

I think no matter what we stick with home until next year, the kids he is blooding will be mouth watering for any coach should we be any to move him in. It?s just to early right now.

[whythelongface]

Re: Sharp Axes

For mine it’s a simple equation.

If we MISS finals (which is very likely), then Bevo GOES end of year

If we MAKE finals, then Bevo STAYS to see out his contract

I’m still not convinced since GF of 21, that this squad is playing for the coach…the odd player yes, but as a team, no.

I don’t see it that way. If we make finals and get kicked out week one then there is little difference to finishing tenth. What we need to see is a developing list blended with experience that play an exciting brand and show competitiveness against the top teams. Bar Friday‘s result the last month has shown a rejuvenated team that has been playing good footy. I feel in the best interests of the team that Bevo at least sees out this current contract and hopefully extends, all things going well next year

[macca]

Re: Sharp Axes

I find the plan b discussion interesting.

Do other teams have a plan B mid game? I am not sure plan b is actually a thing and honestly I think there would be less than a handful of posters on woof would be able to truly spot a change mid game.

In the after match press a conference Beveridge said we changed some things up (again not sure we know enough of plan A detail to know what that was).

Not sure sending Bont forward would have changed our fortunes, our issue was winning the contested ball and lose ball. Taking away our best player from there would not be a move I would make.

Khamis was a sub purely for key position player back up. Bevo mentioned that it is not the best use of the sub but we needed to do it.

We were very fortunate to be 4 goals zero behinds up in the second quarter. I felt after the Lions had kicked 2 goals ahead, it was time to change things. It would have been one of those, oh no.. they opposition are going to get a run on of 5 goals, which did eventually happen.

Not sure if the players have a gear to play defensively and keepings off. Either we don't have the kicking skills or the body strength in the younger players at the moment to hold a position. The lack of tackling pressure is a good indication .

[kruder]

Re: Sharp Axes

We wont make the 8, but if we( players the most important part of the we) continue to see enough evidence that the refresh will bear fruits long term then I think Bevo will coach again next year.

The club has been too slow to react to changes in game style while overstating its list, there is no doubt we didn't make enough change post 22( on and off field) while not playing Smith inside last year after losing Dunkley has cost us significantly( forced to spend 2 first rounders on Sanders as a hedge to him leaving/cover an ageing midfield).

I still think after seeing Bevo on 360 and his performance in the media over the last month has given me enough belief that his still has the passion and hunger to take advantage of this generational tall talent but no doubt we will have to see more of the last months form than early season for him to keep his job at the end of the year.

Friday night was painful to watch( legitimate excuses this time) but I must say I have really enjoyed going to the footy over the last month. Watching Richards in the midfield has been so refreshing, Darcy going to another level ahead of the ball while Garcia just gives off 2016 vibes with his attack on the ball while having some time which good players have.

I hope its better late then never for Bevo fingers crossed.

[JanLorMill]

Re: Sharp Axes

Couldn’t care less about how our coach performs in the media. Concentrate on the setup and game day. Maybe we have made changes but the results aren’t there. Still get beaten by the same teams, still questionable efforts, still dropping games we shouldn’t, still no room for a hard tag when evidence shows it has influence, etc.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Sharp Axes

I'm on the fence.

We've been pretty good since the Richmond game. Friday Night sucked but we look desperate for a rest and we're simply down too many quality players.

The spirit of the group has looked different to 2022-2023.

I'll write the Brisbane game off, but only that one. I expect a more committed performance vs Fremantle.

If we continue to show spirit and fight, and Bevo wants to lead a rebuild, I'm inclined to go that way but it means getting on the same page collectively and making some big calls on a number of big name players.

If we revert back to how we were prior to the Richmond game, I'll be wanting a new approach for 2025.