Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18972

    #61
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    It's a list management post but I'd retain McNeil. He is 21 and he can create pressure. Small forwards don't have to do much to be effective. Killer that he combines a pretty poor kick with (seemingly) massive nerves in front of goal. Like if he can get some improvement with his goal kicking, maybe there is something. I am fine with him being cut though.
    This is why you're one of my favorite posters Borat.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18972

      #62
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

      Thing with Lachie is, he's just a Mc off being a Brownlow medallist with a sketchy bird tattoo
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Danjul
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 1624

        #63
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Thing with Lachie is, he's just a Mc off being a Brownlow medallist with a sketchy bird tattoo
        He was not very good and stuffed up badly with a shot at goal. There, that?s the facts.

        Ive seen Naughton, Bont, Bruce and others miss from the same spot. Did he score anything with the kick? Last week Lobb hit the behind post and scored nothing. Yes he was further around but it was an easy shot for a superstar who is paid thousands of dollars per disposal. That seems a bit negative now I look at it again.

        Is there anything I can say that is positive about his game? How about he had 6 possessions in 20% game time. I know Naughton had 7 but he was on the ground 80% game time.

        McNeil was not the problem. We kicked 2.8 in the second half so others kicked poorly. And that is not counting players missing everything.

        Should he go back to the seconds to freshen up? Yes.

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        • westbulldog
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2009
          • 1823

          #64
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

          We are rotating the deckchairs on the Titanic, how about Naughton back, English forward and Sweet in.

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          • The Underdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2007
            • 6872

            #65
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

            Originally posted by westbulldog
            We are rotating the deckchairs on the Titanic, how about Naughton back, English forward and Sweet in.
            Yep, because the way to fix our problems is to take the guy who was our best player by a mile on Saturday and put him where he can have less of an influence on the game.
            Park that car
            Drop that phone
            Sleep on the floor
            Dream about me

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            • Danjul
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1624

              #66
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

              Originally posted by westbulldog
              We are rotating the deckchairs on the Titanic, how about Naughton back, English forward and Sweet in.
              I always get into trouble when I mention the S words, but here goes.

              Last year when we played Gold Coast Sweet was absolutely murdered by Witts. Witts got 55 hitouts and 6 kicks while Sweet had 27 and 3. Miraculously we won the clearances 49-36. And Also the game, we had 31 shots at goal and Naughton got 3 goals.

              Digging a little deeper, Witts had 90% game time but Sweet only had 75%. Allowing for that Sweets figures improve a little. Who rucked when he was off the ground? Cordy and Khamis. We were happy for them to ruck against Witts.

              The week before Sweet was our ruckman against Collingwood. Sweet had 26 hitouts (13 disposals) against 33 (11) . But the clearances were 43-27 in our favour. 29 shots at goal gave An 8 goal win and Naughton got 3. Who was his assistant that time? Cordy.

              Treloar, Smith, Macrae and Libba had 144 disposals and the slackers were Bont and Dunkley who could only manage 50 disposals between them. That is close to 200 disposals by players running through the midfielder.

              So the conclusion is Sweet can only play when the midfielders are in sensational form, and at the moment they are not. And we do not have Cordy to help him anymore.

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6872

                #67
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                Park that car
                Drop that phone
                Sleep on the floor
                Dream about me

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                • westbulldog
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1823

                  #68
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                  Originally posted by The Underdog
                  Yep, because the way to fix our problems is to take the guy who was our best player by a mile on Saturday and put him where he can have less of an influence on the game.
                  I don't recall posting that English would be 100% forward

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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6872

                    #69
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                    Originally posted by westbulldog
                    I don't recall posting that English would be 100% forward
                    True
                    Park that car
                    Drop that phone
                    Sleep on the floor
                    Dream about me

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15322

                      #70
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      It's a list management post but I'd retain McNeil. He is 21 and he can create pressure. Small forwards don't have to do much to be effective. Killer that he combines a pretty poor kick with (seemingly) massive nerves in front of goal. Like if he can get some improvement with his goal kicking, maybe there is something. I am fine with him being cut though.
                      Isn?t that the rub with McNeil? You justify why you want to retain him then on the other hand your ok delisting him.

                      I really do long for a time where are delisting decisions are hard because they are afl quality and not just vfl quality.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18972

                        #71
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Isn?t that the rub with McNeil? You justify why you want to retain him then on the other hand your ok delisting him.

                        I really do long for a time where are delisting decisions are hard because they are afl quality and not just vfl quality.
                        Baker is a good example. Demons recruiting has been superb.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Bullies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 1807

                          #72
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                          Originally posted by Danjul
                          I always get into trouble when I mention the S words, but here goes.

                          Last year when we played Gold Coast Sweet was absolutely murdered by Witts. Witts got 55 hitouts and 6 kicks while Sweet had 27 and 3. Miraculously we won the clearances 49-36. And Also the game, we had 31 shots at goal and Naughton got 3 goals.

                          Digging a little deeper, Witts had 90% game time but Sweet only had 75%. Allowing for that Sweets figures improve a little. Who rucked when he was off the ground? Cordy and Khamis. We were happy for them to ruck against Witts.

                          The week before Sweet was our ruckman against Collingwood. Sweet had 26 hitouts (13 disposals) against 33 (11) . But the clearances were 43-27 in our favour. 29 shots at goal gave An 8 goal win and Naughton got 3. Who was his assistant that time? Cordy.

                          Treloar, Smith, Macrae and Libba had 144 disposals and the slackers were Bont and Dunkley who could only manage 50 disposals between them. That is close to 200 disposals by players running through the midfielder.

                          So the conclusion is Sweet can only play when the midfielders are in sensational form, and at the moment they are not. And we do not have Cordy to help him anymore.
                          You could look it the other way and and Sweet can put the midfielders in form by giving them the armchair ride. It is well known amongst other clubs that Sweet is one of the best tap ruckman going around. He was targeting by a few clubs and will be again next year. Sweet should do all the ruck work and English be the utility around the ground and play forward at the bounce. English plays like a ruck rover anyway.

                          Getting clean use of the ball out of the middle and moving it forward quickly to Naughton, English and Marra could make such a difference.

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6522

                            #73
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                            Out: Richards, JOD, McNeil
                            In: Crozier, Cleary, West

                            I'd like to see us regain the balance we had before JJ went down and bring in the extra small back, in place of JOD. I think Crozier is the best 'interceptor' we have in the twos, so comes in for Ed and Cleary has been unlucky not to play so far. Poulter close, but I'd rather play the natural half backs.

                            Arty falls out of the 22 and takes McNeil's role as sub. Think his pace and ability to play wing or half forward will be handy coming on late. West in as he feels like the only small forward running around at Footscray, it's starting to get a bit last chance saloon for Ryhlee

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                            • Danjul
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1624

                              #74
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                              Originally posted by westbulldog
                              I don't recall posting that English would be 100% forward
                              In those games games we were sensational. Like in early 2021. And that was without English who is usually our best player now.

                              We would be unbeatable if we could put our balanced, experienced and cohesive group on the field with everyone in their natural position.

                              As supporting evidence, it is probably on tape somewhere, I watched some of the vfl games at the end of last season and saw Sweet kick as many goals as Arty. Two were from outside 50.

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                              • Danjul
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 1624

                                #75
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Baker is a good example. Demons recruiting has been superb.
                                I might be misinterpreting this but Baker has been one of the improvements this year. He has good football sense, covers a lot of ground and plays a quick game. No standing still, looking backwards and slow lobs to the forwards. I would like to see the forwards help by making better targets.

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