Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

[hujsh]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

I thought it his best game so far. So not really surprised.

What did he do? Stats only say 6 touches so assume there's a tale not told there.

Overall I'm surprised at how quickly VDM is back into defence, that Cleary is seemingly just no chance of a game at the moment, that Baker is dropped (guessing Scott on the wing with a forward rotating through) but not super surprised Gardner and O'Brien could be dropped.

[jeemak]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Just something further on Baker, perhaps there's something associated with how we failed to hold our defencive structure that relates to the role he had been playing the past couple of weeks.

It's seemed to the eye these past couple of weeks we've struggled to negate passage between the arcs which has put our defenders under more pressure than we'd like, exacerbating both Gardner and O'Brien's defencive struggles.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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There is no justification for JOD. It isn't as though he's playing a specific role i.e nullifying an opposition rebounder or intercepter. He has given us ZERO in all facets of the game and it's clear he's in because, well, Bevo loves a shiny new toy.

If I am Khamis and Cleary (and yes, Cleary plays a different role) I'd be at a loss as to how I can't crack a game while JOD is gifted 5 after coming from backyard cricket.

The rest of the selections are fine, whatever, and no JOD won't be the reason we win or lose ... But that's kind of the point. He's also not the reason we score, get scored against, win the ball, lose the ball, etc

I don't mean it as an attack on the player, it's not his fault he isn't ready, but it's a ridiculous call (again).

[soupman]

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There is no justification for JOD. It isn't as though he's playing a specific role i.e nullifying an opposition rebounder or intercepter. He has given us ZERO in all facets of the game and it's clear he's in because, well, Bevo loves a shiny new toy.

If I am Khamis and Cleary (and yes, Cleary plays a different role) I'd be at a loss as to how I can't crack a game while JOD is gifted 5 after coming from backyard cricket.

The rest of the selections are fine, whatever, and no JOD won't be the reason we win or lose ... But that's kind of the point. He's also not the reason we score, get scored against, win the ball, lose the ball, etc

I don't mean it as an attack on the player, it's not his fault he isn't ready, but it's a ridiculous call (again).

Thanks for writing out the exact post I was about to make for me.

I am optimistic about his future, but he isn't even having moments in games where he is showing stuff, and we are not playing him in any meaningful manner. If we played him as the third defensive tall then maybe I could see some merit, but it feels like when everyone splits up for their line meetings he'd kind of be left by himself in the middle of the room because there is no role to discuss with him.

[kruder]

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JOD selection is bizarre, just can't work it out.

I still think we need to find a way to get Daniel back to the centre forward role even though he was good last week.

Fingers crossed Vanders and Westy( do the basics Westy!!!) take their chance they have been given enough opportunity for mine.

[whythelongface]

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Same here regarding JOD. What does he bring that others don’t have? I am just not seeing it. Rather have Buku, TOB or Cleary in the team. This will be his 5th start and in his previous games has done little.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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JOD must train well.

[D Mitchell]

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Same here regarding JOD. What does he bring that others don’t have? I am just not seeing it. Rather have Buku, TOB or Cleary in the team. This will be his 5th start and in his previous games has done little.

He scored 1 goal 1 behind last week, on a par with the 3 other tall forwards. I've only seen him play the once, last week. From very limited opportunities, he played an adjunct role to the other 3, more experienced and touted forward talls, I liked what I saw. I don't think the 3 tall set up works, let alone a 4 tall. I share your puzzlement at what O'Donnell brings to the team that others don't.

[Grantysghost]

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What did he do? Stats only say 6 touches so assume there's a tale not told there.

Overall I'm surprised at how quickly VDM is back into defence, that Cleary is seemingly just no chance of a game at the moment, that Baker is dropped (guessing Scott on the wing with a forward rotating through) but not super surprised Gardner and O'Brien could be dropped.

Ok -- so for starters he's just a kid so I don't expect too much.

For me it's his movement and contest.

He competes really well in the air and on the ground. He spreads well and gets himself into good positions on transition both ways.

Stats wise I get it, however I think that will come with experience.

He also kicked a goal yay.

If I compare him to Buku, who we all love no doubt, he just has his covered for smarts.

Of course he is fringe and certainly don't expect him to have a secure spot.

[hujsh]

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Ok -- so for starters he's just a kid so I don't expect too much.

For me it's his movement and contest.

He competes really well in the air and on the ground. He spreads well and gets himself into good positions on transition both ways.

Stats wise I get it, however I think that will come with experience.

He also kicked a goal yay.

If I compare him to Buku, who we all love no doubt, he just has his covered for smarts.

Of course he is fringe and certainly don't expect him to have a secure spot.

Thanks, since I didn't see the game and didn't care to subject myself to a Geelong win I'm kind of relying on WOOFers to get the story (silly I know)

[D Mitchell]

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If I am Khamis and Cleary (and yes, Cleary plays a different role) I'd be at a loss as to how I can't crack a game while JOD is gifted 5 after coming from backyard cricket.

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Bolded bit. That's a bit harsh, isn't it ?. Essendon CC in the Premier League, the old District Cricket Competition ?

[DOG GOD]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

JOD obviously does the 1%’s well

[Grantysghost]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

JOD obviously does the 1%’s well

Not a fan DG?

[westbulldog]

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Can someone post what Vandermeer has done to get a game over Cleary ? Sweet is the perpetual emergency even after a good vfl game, whilst Lobb deserved to be dropped. Imo Cleary, Khamis and Sweet should leave for other clubs, their treatment at the dogs is appalling. Baker has had just one midly off game, he was good before then and we need his speed.

[lemmon]

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Can someone post what Vandermeer has done to get a game over Cleary ? Sweet is the perpetual emergency even after a good vfl game, whilst Lobb deserved to be dropped. Imo Cleary, Khamis and Sweet should leave for other clubs, their treatment at the dogs is appalling. Baker has had just one midly off game, he was good before then and we need his speed.

I would've played Cleary and Crozier this week, but my guess is we're looking at him to bring pace off a half-bank flank. We're pretty slow down there without JJ and Richards, and that's made a bit worse without Baker in the side as well. My guess is he's come in to play behind the ball and try to break some lines.