Everyone is RIGHT.

[MrMahatma]

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No doubt an impact (small me thinks), but gee, no way should be an excuse.

That ground had a couple of million spent on it, it is not a cow paddock. Wow, no where to get a latte

A goal a game? Gets us 3 wins.

[Bornadog]

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A goal a game? Gets us 3 wins.

That is not down to the ground

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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I have lost faith, never loyalty in Bevo after last weekend and so the season and the hope of buliding for finals.
We limp in not from injury or talent rather because we are limp, need a blue pill.
The coach must be held accountable no doubt.
Bevo would be snapped up but McRaes are thin on ground.
What I do not know but would like to is, what is the players' attitude atm?
I feel those that've left, Stringer, Young, Dunkley may've been because of the playing groups attitude to them as disapproving, perhaps less so of Dunkley.
Bevo seems to be saying his job is helping the group achieve what they want.
Is the tail wagging the dog somewhat too much?

[bulldogtragic]

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I would also go as far to say that both Chris and Matt's roles have been compromised this year with having to train and do pre season at Skinners. Track was hard so lots of injuries and they probably didn't want to train them as hard as what they would have liked. Those that did get injured also seem to get injured again and a lot of those injuries - groins etc were blamed on the surface. Didn't make their jobs easy considering they are used to training and running on soft and spongey surfaces.

So. Are you Chris or Matt?

[GVGjr]

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I've heard a couple of the players mention Skinner Reserve on the Danny/Boyd pod as in, can we PLEASE get back to the club and soon...no doubt it has had an impact.

Players were commenting on it back in November 22 and it didn't start to improve until Jan 23 and then was a lot better by Feb.
At the same time it would have been very frustrating for the coaches seeing so many players being rotated through the rehab group.

[Grantysghost]

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Players were commenting on it back in November 22 and it didn't start to improve until Jan 23 and then was a lot better by Feb.
At the same time it would have been very frustrating for the coaches seeing so many players being rotated through the rehab group.

Yes I asked the question in November.

Wasn't a positive response.

Head shake, it's too hard.

[Bornadog]

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Yes I asked the question in November.

Wasn't a positive response.

Head shake, it's too hard.

I really don't think training at Skinner effected our season - some inconvenience but nothing more

[GVGjr]

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I really don't think training at Skinner effected our season - some inconvenience but nothing more

What are you basing that on BAD? Hard surface, no real amenities and an array of foot type injuries resulting with players rotating through the rehab group plus the feedback the players were giving would indicate it was a bit more challenging than just being inconvenient.

[Bornadog]

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What are you basing that on BAD? Hard surface, no real amenities and an array of foot type injuries resulting with players rotating through the rehab group plus the feedback the players were giving would indicate it was a bit more challenging than just being inconvenient.

All teams go through stuff like that. eg: Hawks lost use of their training ground for months. We can't be saying that the ground effected our season and that is why we lost games.

No doubt their were issues, but no excuses.

[Grantysghost]

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All teams go through stuff like that. eg: Hawks lost use of their training ground for months. We can't be saying that the ground effected our season and that is why we lost games.

No doubt their were issues, but no excuses.

Players said it had an effect.

[GVGjr]

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All teams go through stuff like that. eg: Hawks lost use of their training ground for months. We can't be saying that the ground effected our season and that is why we lost games.

No doubt their were issues, but no excuses.

What was the feedback from the Hawks change though? Was the ground they trained on having trouble with a hard surface and did they have better facilities? Their VFL team has a home ground so no change there.

We got off to a slow start to the season with a couple of thrashings and perhaps the Skinner reserve surface played a part in it.
You seem to want to dismiss it as a non factor and that's fine but I saw players coming off the ground repeatedly and heading to the rehab group in the early days.

[JanLorMill]

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Players said it had an effect.

Yes Naughton missed 3 easy shots on Sunday because of Skinner reserve

[Bornadog]

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What was the feedback from the Hawks change though? Was the ground they trained on having trouble with a hard surface and did they have better facilities? Their VFL team has a home ground so no change there.

We got off to a slow start to the season with a couple of thrashings and perhaps the Skinner reserve surface played a part in it.
You seem to want to dismiss it as a non factor and that's fine but I saw players coming off the ground repeatedly and heading to the rehab group in the early days.

I don't believe they trained at Box hill. I would have to ask a mate where they trained

[Grantysghost]

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Yes Naughton missed 3 easy shots on Sunday because of Skinner reserve

Really? How did that happen?

[Grantysghost]

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I don't believe they trained at Box hill. I would have to ask a mate where they trained

BAD you're using that as your key argument and you don't know where they trained?

I'm starting to doubt your research