Everyone is RIGHT.

[azabob]

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Chris Bell as well.

I reckon Chris Bell does a good job. He’s more rehab, yeah?

[angelopetraglia]

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I reckon Chris Bell does a good job. He’s more rehab, yeah?

Official title is Head of Sports Medicine. He has been at the club since 2014. "My current role manages the medical and rehabilitation teams that optimize the performances of the Western Bulldogs Football Club AFL / AFLW / VFL teams."

[Bornadog]

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Matt Innes has been at the club for 9 years and 10 months.

He was VFL Strength and Conditioning coach for one year.
He was High Performance Coach for another year.
For the last 8 Years he has been the Head of Sport Science and Physical Performance.

Nothing wrong with Matt at all. Highly experienced with a great background. I don't believe we are lacking conditioning at all.

[jeemak]

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Matt Innes has been at the club for 9 years and 10 months.

He was VFL Strength and Conditioning coach for one year.
He was High Performance Coach for another year.
For the last 8 Years he has been the Head of Sport Science and Physical Performance.

He's only competent when we're winning.

[jeemak]

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I reckon Chris Bell does a good job. He’s more rehab, yeah?

Conservative rehab.

[bulldogtragic]

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Conservative rehab.

Ticks boxes better than anyone I know.

[DOG GOD]

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Nothing wrong with Matt at all. Highly experienced with a great background. I don't believe we are lacking conditioning at all.

Really? There’s been games where players like macrae and English look like they are running in quicksand 5 mins into the 3rd.

[GVGjr]

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Coach payouts are generally capped at 6 months, regardless of the time left on their contract.

It depends if the club is getting AFL assistance. Saints only had to payout Ratten 6 months. WC need to pay the full amount of Simpson's contract and the same would apply for us with Bevo if it ever got to that stage.

[azabob]

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Ticks boxes better than anyone I know.

He does, but you must admit our players come straight back in after a long lay and don't look like they've missed a beat.

[bulldogtragic]

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He does, but you must admit our players come straight back in after a long lay and don't look like they've missed a beat.

Chuuch

[The Doctor]

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Wishing you a speedy recovery Mike.
Doc

[MrMahatma]

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Really? There’s been games where players like macrae and English look like they are running in quicksand 5 mins into the 3rd.

Dunkley's comments didn't help.

But nor have regular fade outs.

To be fair, we were coming pretty hard on Sunday. Another 2-3 mins and we'd win, so I wouldn't say that was fitness.

[GVGjr]

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Before I start:
- I have shingles right now and it is kicking my butt pretty bad. I went back to coach (had to miss a game the week before - a 1-point lost which i watched online and did not contribute to a positive health outcome!) on Saturday and by half time was really suffering with the stress induced nerve pain that is shingles...anyway - it was spiking again in the 3rd q vs Hawthorn and because I have like, a real job to go to, I turned the tv off in the interests of getting better....

So a lot of the stuff everyone is no doubt complaining about I didn't watch. But I think everyone knows by now I share in the pain.

To everyone saying we should sack Bevo - you're right. The results this season and over the past 18-months have been unacceptable and it really looks like we just need 'something' to change.

To everyone saying we need to stick with him - well, it's another loss by less than 2 goals...we haven't lost by > 22 points since round 2 - and it really has been a season of inches.

I actually feel sorry for Bevo and the coaches right now. Early in the season we were getting smacked and it makes it pretty simple to say "Right - whack - here's a radical change and you can see why...the results speak for themselves".

It's a hard position we're in right now - we play well and establish a lead so the plan (whatever it is and I seriously don't want to debate it) WORKS and why would we change. THEN, we fall apart and fall short - JUST - with enough of a tease at the end of a couple of games (Hawthorn and Collingwood esp) that indicate if we would simply persist everything would be OK.

Perhaps 3 or 4 close losses are equal to one big defeat and are enough to trigger change? I don't know. I know if I was the coaching team and Bevo in particular I would be having serious pause as our best is so clearly good enough yet something is stopping us from executing the plan for 4-quarters.

I guess this belongs in the 'Sharp Axes' thread (great thread by the way) but I just wanted to create one that sort of says whatever side of the fence you are on you are RIGHT and I hope everyone is able to appreciate the dilemma the club decision makers are in right now.

First up, I hope you get better soon. Shingles is not something I'd wish upon anyone.

I also think the Sharp Axes thread is a good one and both the sack and keep Bevo comments have been by in large informative.
I've detailed why I don't think there needs to be a change to Bevo or the assistants but we now know Rohan Smith won't be part of our coaching group next year. Is it the start of something bigger? I really don't know.
I also don't know much about the contracts we have in place with the other assistants which might shape our approach.

Some points I think we need to consider in this debate:
You can't train on a venue like Skinner Reserve for as long as we did with no amenities and for it not to have an impact.
You can't have a VFL team with no home ground base without having an impact to the players pushing to get promoted.
You can't have a poorly set-up football department with no GM of Football and for it not to have an impact.
Then consider soft cap impacts (they are real), a massive redevelopment that has to be diverting the focus of the executive team and perhaps we have also missed some progress in the development of players, got some of our recruitment wrong and we might have not got this side as fit as some other clubs.

As supporters we rightly had lofty ambitions for the season and so did the club for that matter.
Bevo is the face of the footy department and I get why people see that the buck stops there and perhaps it needs to but I don't think it's all on him and we need to factor in the reasons why we've come up short on expectations so far.

[mjp]

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You can't train on a venue like Skinner Reserve for as long as we did with no amenities and for it not to have an impact.

I've heard a couple of the players mention Skinner Reserve on the Danny/Boyd pod as in, can we PLEASE get back to the club and soon...no doubt it has had an impact.

[Bornadog]

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I've heard a couple of the players mention Skinner Reserve on the Danny/Boyd pod as in, can we PLEASE get back to the club and soon...no doubt it has had an impact.

No doubt an impact (small me thinks), but gee, no way should be an excuse.

That ground had a couple of million spent on it, it is not a cow paddock. Wow, no where to get a latte