Why have we lost ground to the Saints?

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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5669

    #91
    Re: Why have we lost ground to the Saints?

    Originally posted by jeemak
    It's a good call out, and as part of my "how we improve next year" view is we need him to trim up and get his running again, but importantly, get into the rotations.

    Treloar is a better option for the half forward/ extra mid role that Jacko played this year. I'd swap them essentially and have him in the role that made him a dominant player of the competition.
    I thought we improve by trading him?

    My issue with Treloar for Macrae is that we lose a lot of our pace (which is already a problem). I think it's just changing things from 70% CBAs for Bont, Libba and Treloar - increase the splits, increase the variety. Jacko should definitely be one who benefits from that.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21850

      #92
      Re: Why have we lost ground to the Saints?

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      I thought we improve by trading him?

      My issue with Treloar for Macrae is that we lose a lot of our pace (which is already a problem). I think it's just changing things from 70% CBAs for Bont, Libba and Treloar - increase the splits, increase the variety. Jacko should definitely be one who benefits from that.
      Jacko is tougher than Treloar at the source and in my view better at extracting and distributing by hand. Whereas Treloar is better at moving away from the contest.

      Quickness inside is about ball to hand or ball to foot, and I think that's where Adam is a bit lacking compared to Jack.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18997

        #93
        Re: Why have we lost ground to the Saints?

        Originally posted by Uninformed
        There is one facet where I thought we lost ground against everyone: the drop off in form of Jack Macrae. It is not a criticism because I love him as a player, but I felt he was way less influential this year. Does anyone have an insight into why this was the case? My assumption has been that he was carrying an injury, but I haven't seen any confirmation of this.
        There defintely was a planned move of Jack outside of the stoppage. He played mainly as a half forward pushing up.
        So my guess is the coaches saw an issue with speed/spread from stoppage and Jacko sacrificed his one wood in consult with the coaches in line with this new proposal.
        In hindsight I don't think it worked. Jack is 3x AA for a reason (remember Treloar has 0)and that's because he's a gun extractor / distributor.
        Treloar was good, we just need to get the balance right next season with more rotations I think.

        I think Rocco pointed out there were only a handful of guys with more than 2 centre bounce attendances.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • macca
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 2368

          #94
          Re: Why have we lost ground to the Saints?

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          There defintely was a planned move of Jack outside of the stoppage. He played mainly as a half forward pushing up.
          So my guess is the coaches saw an issue with speed/spread from stoppage and Jacko sacrificed his one wood in consult with the coaches in line with this new proposal.
          In hindsight I don't think it worked. Jack is 3x AA for a reason (remember Treloar has 0)and that's because he's a gun extractor / distributor.
          Treloar was good, we just need to get the balance right next season with more rotations I think.

          I think Rocco pointed out there were only a handful of guys with more than 2 centre bounce attendances.
          I dont understand this coaching move . Why would you move Macrae out of his strength to play him fwd when its not his strength ? Is it because we have no else who can play that role ? We got smashed so many times this season with teams winning the clearances and getting a run of 3-5 goals , due to poor defense midfieldrs.

          I dont get it .. play to your strengths .

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