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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45560

    #1

    The pick 4 deal

    I've mentioned already today that we probably need to wait to see what other deals get done to really get the picture of how this deal might look but on face value do you see this as a positive or a negative outcome for the club?

    I'll attach a poll with some options more than the typical yes or no options (this not a referendum )
    58
    I think we've overpaid by a substantial amount
    0%
    19
    I really wanted us to move up the order so I'm okay with it
    0%
    14
    Bloody father son picks complicate things
    0%
    14
    You can't have too many top end picks
    0%
    8
    We should have kept what we had and played the cards as they fell
    0%
    3

    The poll is expired.

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11961

    #2
    Re: The pick 4 deal

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I've mentioned already today that we probably need to wait to see what other deals get done to really get the picture of how this deal might look but on face value do you see this as a positive or a negative outcome for the club?

    I'll attach a poll with some options more than the typical yes or no options (this not a referendum )
    So it won't need a majority of the other boards support to pass?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45560

      #3
      Re: The pick 4 deal

      Originally posted by hujsh
      So it won't need a majority of the other boards support to pass?
      4 states need to pass this and I'd say we need 60% plus
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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 8048

        #4
        Re: The pick 4 deal

        If in doubt vote no. We don't know what G will do to us if we vote yes.

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11494

          #5
          Re: The pick 4 deal

          This is more like a plebiscite in that what we think has no bearing on the decision.

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11961

            #6
            Re: The pick 4 deal

            I've said we've overpaid but my stance is begining to soften as father son/academy/AFL compensation ****ery gets accounted for. It initially felt like we'd need to finish top 4 to balance out the trade but maybe simply making the 8 evens things out. There's also the ability with all these bids to bundle up some picks and move ahead in the draft so there's a long way to go yet before we really can gauge this whole thing

            I'm still in the overpaid camp for now but I'm open to changing my mind by the end of the 24 draft
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 6018

              #7
              Re: The pick 4 deal

              I went with number two but I sit between 2 and 3 as it's more the compo picks and the sliding of your natural pick that shits me.
              Maybe all compo picks should be future picks so it doesn't disrupt the clubs plan in the current year.
              Don't piss off old people
              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45560

                #8
                Re: The pick 4 deal

                Originally posted by Hotdog60
                I went with number two but I sit between 2 and 3 as it's more the compo picks and the sliding of your natural pick that shits me.
                Maybe all compo picks should be future picks so it doesn't disrupt the clubs plan in the current year.
                I nearly went with multiple choices in the poll but um....stuff it
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                • jazzadogs
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5840

                  #9
                  Re: The pick 4 deal

                  I think we overpaid significantly, but on your question of whether it's positive or negative for the club...that is greyer. We will still get Watson and Croft, so it is a positive outcome.

                  But we miss out on the future 1st, whoever that might be...it's hard to judge at this stage because it hinges on the 2024 pick location but it does feel weighted against us.

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                  • LostDog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 426

                    #10
                    Re: The pick 4 deal

                    Hmm Weightman and Watson

                    That means never seeing Scott or McNeil again is plus
                    I just don't think these 2 are up to it, good VFL level only
                    Because you cant beat the boys of the BULLDOG breed!!!!!

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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3981

                      #11
                      Re: The pick 4 deal

                      On paper, all things being equal, I think we overpaid. BUT - I also wanted us to bring in a top end talent in a position of need - so I went with #2.

                      Of course, all things are not equal. There's f/s, academy picks both this year and next, which push everything we've paid back. Plus, there's the depth of both drafts.

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                      • angelopetraglia
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6929

                        #12
                        Re: The pick 4 deal

                        Due to future picks being involved and the unknown nature of the father son nomination, this is incredibly difficult to judge. If we finish top four next year, Croft and the Wizard look like stars we will look like geninuses. If we finish bottom four and our pick #4 doesn't have a great start we could like fools.

                        Time will tell.
                        Last edited by angelopetraglia; 09-10-2023, 06:01 PM.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45560

                          #13
                          Re: The pick 4 deal

                          I think this sums up Sam Power and Dom Milesi with the thought of getting Nick Watson in

                          Tony.jpg

                          They'll be going rock climbing
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                          • LostDog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 426

                            #14
                            Re: The pick 4 deal

                            Agreed I hope Watson is not Nathan Hrovat 2.0
                            Because you cant beat the boys of the BULLDOG breed!!!!!

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6929

                              #15
                              Re: The pick 4 deal

                              Based on the same finishing ladder positions this year will happen next year.

                              What we are getting.

                              Pick 4 2034
                              Pick 46 331
                              Pick 56 194
                              Pick 40 429 (future third)

                              Total 2988


                              What we are giving up.

                              Pick 10 1395
                              Pick 17 1025
                              Pick 10 1395 (Future first)

                              Total 3815

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