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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18983

    #76
    Re: The pick 4 deal

    This is what it all comes down to as Sam says :

    Let’s cut to the chase. Powerbrokers at the Dogs believe they have a top-four list and right now they hold a top-four pick.

    Let's hope they're right.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18983

      #77
      Re: The pick 4 deal

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      He'd be a solid selection for us and don't you love that he hitches up the socks.
      He reminds me of JHF.

      Check out the goal at around the 2 minute mark from the clearance.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11848

        #78
        Re: The pick 4 deal

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        He's a forward isn't he? We've probably got enough of those, although I value MJP's opinion highly.
        If he ends up a 192cm inside/outside mid I don't mind him starting as a forward

        We've also seen with the likes of Dunkey and Bont a mid who can clunk a mark inside 50 can be very handy
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • jazzadogs
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Oct 2008
          • 5653

          #79
          Re: The pick 4 deal

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          This is what it all comes down to as Sam says :

          Let’s cut to the chase. Powerbrokers at the Dogs believe they have a top-four list and right now they hold a top-four pick.

          Let's hope they're right.
          Yep. They've gambled on something that seems unlikely based on recent performances.

          I understand the benefits, the impacts of academy/fs bids, the risk of doing nothing - but I'm still just not comfortable with giving up the f1.

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13237

            #80
            Re: The pick 4 deal

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            He reminds me of JHF.

            Check out the goal at around the 2 minute mark from the clearance.
            Sames. He has great vision and disposal as well.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5653

              #81
              Re: The pick 4 deal

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              He reminds me of JHF.

              Check out the goal at around the 2 minute mark from the clearance.
              It's a very nice highlights package. Would complement our mids nicely.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44694

                #82
                Re: The pick 4 deal

                Originally posted by Axe Man

                Let?s cut to the chase. Powerbrokers at the Dogs believe they have a top-four list and right now they hold a top-four pick.

                It is rare for a club in immediate pursuit of a premiership to hold such a precious pick.
                This is the point that gets lost on many of our supporters who continually underrate our playing list especially when we don't quite measure up at the pointy end of the season. The club actually thinks we are right in a window and our recruiting and the way we position ourselves for drafts etc is a strong indication that we think we are close.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6879

                  #83
                  Re: The pick 4 deal

                  This feels like the classic move of a regime who will look great if it comes off and we're top 4 next season or won't be around for the consequences if it doesn't. And that's all of Grant, Power and Beveridge.
                  Park that car
                  Drop that phone
                  Sleep on the floor
                  Dream about me

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11848

                    #84
                    Re: The pick 4 deal

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    This is the point that gets lost on many of our supporters who continually underrate our playing list especially when we don't quite measure up at the pointy end of the season. The club actually thinks we are right in a window and our recruiting and the way we position ourselves for drafts etc is a strong indication that we think we are close.
                    Regardless of how good the playing list are we've demonstrated we're lucky to be a top 8 team and if anything probably aren't in the best 8 teams.

                    Unless the off field appointments can change that quickly it's hard to accept making these decisions just because of some names on a piece of paper. Demonstrated performance suggests otherwise
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • Scorlibo
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3087

                      #85
                      Re: The pick 4 deal

                      So we're going for a hail mary. I don't agree with it, but I'm also excited by the dare of the play. On the face of it, Nick Watson could contribute next year in a position of need. We've been well served by the top end of the draft in recent times, with barely any 'misses', yet our few later picks haven't come on, so the deal at least aligns with our recruiting strengths and strategy.

                      Having said that, we have definitely overpaid, and the margin on that overpayment could be large if we miss the eight next year as I expect. Miss the eight and we could be in a world of pain, bereft of our first pick and with English and/or Smith potentially out the door (and out of contract). Plus an aging top end who won't be around for the next tilt because we've delayed the rebuild.

                      Also - how on earth to the media give us a pat on the back for this trade yet drag us over the coals for Naughton's deal? Upside down land.
                      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11272

                        #86
                        Re: The pick 4 deal

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        This is the point that gets lost on many of our supporters who continually underrate our playing list especially when we don't quite measure up at the pointy end of the season. The club actually thinks we are right in a window and our recruiting and the way we position ourselves for drafts etc is a strong indication that we think we are close.
                        Yep, and it's well past time for the entire organisation to pony up and deliver on expectations. Otherwise move on and let others in all areas of leadership at the club do the job.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • SquirrelGrip
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1524

                          #87
                          Re: The pick 4 deal

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Draft watchers if it's not Watson (I think it is) who out of the remaining mids (say McKercher, Duursma, Reid are gone) would be worth getting.

                          The Larke Medallist, Sanders, seems like he might be a great acquisition? 6 ft 1 consistent midfielder with lovely skills and the ability to hit the score board.
                          I've seen a bit of Ryley this year and if you were picking a player to play now, I'd have him in the top three. He's a victim of his consistency - and IMO he's been the most consistent of any of the potentials year-long - plus he's a victim of the perception that others have more room for improvement. He's the best with his hands in a contest of this year's crop.

                          For mine he's a 250+ game player wherever he goes.
                          "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                          • The Adelaide Connection
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2787

                            #88
                            Re: The pick 4 deal

                            Hopefully we were planning for the NM compo and it won’t impact our plans. Surely.

                            Note: Could we have bargained harder after the compound pick went through?

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                            • SlimPickens
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2929

                              #89
                              Re: The pick 4 deal

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              I really like what I've seen of Sanders and think he'll be a 200-gamer. I think his kicking and outside game is pretty underrated and it's a nice package with the work he does on the inside. Also just looks ready for AFL football and should play a decent amount of senior footy next year.

                              I'd be intrigued to see how he tests at the Combine because he doesn't look 'quick' but he does manage to run the footy through the front of the stoppage more than you'd think. He has pretty strong hips and a good ability to break a tackle - but I'm not sure that translates to the top level if he doesn't have real physical power and acceleration.
                              He didnt test due to injury
                              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5113

                                #90
                                Re: The pick 4 deal

                                I've had time now to come to terms with this deal.

                                I guess we had two options (assuming we get Croft around pick 12 which seems likely),

                                1. Split pick 10 into a bunch of later picks, use 17 on the Croft points and get say three picks around the 30s mark. Keep our F1.
                                2. Do what we have done, get pick 4 ahead of Croft, get Croft using the third rounders and pick a couple more at the end of the draft.

                                Considering we probably have 40ish players on our list to draft, maybe the difference between the picks we would've had in the 30s in the first option and the late picks in option 2 is not significant.

                                So maybe it really is in practical terms our F1 for pick 4.
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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