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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11246

    Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

    For the life of me I can't understand why you re-rookie McNeil.

    Duryea I get.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66727

      Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      We've redrafted McNeil so I assume Duryea is next and we will keep a spot open.
      We have passed on the 3rd selection, so now open spot
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

        Originally posted by hujsh
        Yeah you'd think we'll hear about some players training with us and maybe we pick one up before the year starts
        It?s either an SSP selection or Mid Season Draft pick.

        I?d take the MSD pick.
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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11181

          Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          It?s either an SSP selection or Mid Season Draft pick.

          I?d take the MSD pick.
          It's beautifully setup for the return of Roarke in the MSD!

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66727

            Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11841

              Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              It?s either an SSP selection or Mid Season Draft pick.

              I?d take the MSD pick.
              Meh, can pick someone up in the MSD when there's an injury. If there's someone we like and they prove they should be on the list isn't it worthwhile having them in the system sooner than later (especially compared to halfway through a season)
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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6444

                Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                So are picks were

                45. Joel Freijah


                47. Lachlan Smith


                55. Aiden O'Driscoll

                All later picks obviously. What is the knock on each of them?
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                • Bulldog Revolution
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3926

                  Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  For the life of me I can't understand why you re-rookie McNeil.

                  Duryea I get.
                  I dont think he's been that far off it TBB

                  Its a notoriously difficult position that half forward flank, and he's been a pretty good tackler, pretty courageous - we havent functioned well forward of the ball during his time. Hes played 42 games over 3 seasons suggesting the match committee have seen enough to like what hes contributing to the team. I dont think his conversion has been quite good enough 19.19 with 8 goal assists, but I dont think hes been too far away from maybe being a handy defensive forward.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44649

                    Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                    Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                    I dont think he's been that far off it TBB

                    Its a notoriously difficult position that half forward flank, and he's been a pretty good tackler, pretty courageous - we havent functioned well forward of the ball during his time. Hes played 42 games over 3 seasons suggesting the match committee have seen enough to like what hes contributing to the team. I dont think his conversion has been quite good enough 19.19 with 8 goal assists, but I dont think hes been too far away from maybe being a handy defensive forward.
                    He's close to being a good footballer for all the reasons you have highlighted including tackling, pressure acts, courage, hard worker and quickness but he just misses too many goal kicking chances that he shouldn't. If he fixes that or somehow finds a different role then he is a good chance. He's never going to be a 25 possession type player so he just has to be more efficient with his kicking.
                    The problem for him is that West is probably ahead of him and Clarke could catch him this year if he doesn't tidy up his kicking.
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                    • josie
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4487

                      Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                      I dont think he's been that far off it TBB

                      Its a notoriously difficult position that half forward flank, and he's been a pretty good tackler, pretty courageous - we havent functioned well forward of the ball during his time. Hes played 42 games over 3 seasons suggesting the match committee have seen enough to like what hes contributing to the team. I dont think his conversion has been quite good enough 19.19 with 8 goal assists, but I dont think hes been too far away from maybe being a handy defensive forward.
                      Sort of agree but only a bit, for me he just hasn?t improved enough, pretty flatline recently. Also some of his misses have been horrible and when you are a short, marginal player you are not afforded as much leeway with conversion.

                      Just saw GvG?s post. Captures my thoughts.
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                      • macca
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2367

                        Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                        I dont think he's been that far off it TBB

                        Its a notoriously difficult position that half forward flank, and he's been a pretty good tackler, pretty courageous - we havent functioned well forward of the ball during his time. Hes played 42 games over 3 seasons suggesting the match committee have seen enough to like what hes contributing to the team. I dont think his conversion has been quite good enough 19.19 with 8 goal assists, but I dont think hes been too far away from maybe being a handy defensive forward.
                        Spot on. For a rooKI , his games plaYED has been above the average number for his rookie draft year.

                        MCneil needs to work on his goal kicking ,its not goOd enough to hold a position in the team with 50% coversion rate.close to 70% is what he should be aiming for.

                        He needs also to work on his marking.

                        If he can sort these 2 out and improve we have a good player

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11841

                          Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                          Originally posted by Dry Rot
                          So are picks were

                          45. Joel Freijah


                          Composure and kicking. More the hitting targets side of things as he seems to have a longish kick and loves a goal.

                          47. Lachlan Smith


                          Might be a bit slow (looks agile enough in highlights) and again maybe not a great kick

                          55. Aiden O'Driscoll

                          Strength/contested work. Very quick but very slight. Also not super consistent either game to game or quarter to quarter. Doesn't seem a big accumulator either

                          All later picks obviously. What is the knock on each of them?
                          Most of these are largely from Rookie Me so maybe have a read of the profiles there
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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11841

                            Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                            Originally posted by macca
                            Spot on. For a rooKI , his games plaYED has been above the average number for his rookie draft year.

                            MCneil needs to work on his goal kicking ,its not goOd enough to hold a position in the team with 50% coversion rate.close to 70% is what he should be aiming for.

                            He needs also to work on his marking.

                            If he can sort these 2 out and improve we have a good player
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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11181

                              Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                              Originally posted by macca
                              Spot on. For a rooKI , his games plaYED has been above the average number for his rookie draft year.

                              MCneil needs to work on his goal kicking ,its not goOd enough to hold a position in the team with 50% coversion rate.close to 70% is what he should be aiming for.

                              He needs also to work on his marking.

                              If he can sort these 2 out and improve we have a good player
                              McNeil has actually gone at 39% across his career (you have to count the complete misses as well). 70% would put him in GOAT territory. Anything above 50% is reasonable.

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Is this from typing on a phone?
                              If not macca might need a new keyboard!

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10002

                                Re: AFL Draft Day 2 & Rookie Draft

                                Originally posted by bornadog
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