Tim English - What Price do you pay?

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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5593

    Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

    How about Visentini from Port? Third in line behind Soldo and Sweet, 21yo, from Melbourne. Stats look okay from his games earlier this year but probably a) not a Bevo ruck and b) not a starting 18 ruck.

    If English does leave for West Coast then I would ask for Bailey Williams or Matt Flynn. They're both serviceable first ruck options.

    Kieren Strachan another back up at Crows, but they will be hoping he pushes ROB out in the next few years so don't think he'd be GETTABLE.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44396

      Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

      Originally posted by chef
      Sad thing is the type of ruck Bevo wants imo is exactly what English is. There's not much out there in terms of replacement. Need to sign him up.
      To me Bevo has evolved a bit beyond this, he will pick the best ruck we have in the side. Sure he might prefer a mobile almost tall midfielder ruck but he will adjust to who we have available. I want us to keep English but we just can't take the easy no care option of paying him above his real value is. I'd wish he would re sign now but I don't think there are a lot of suitors for him so I confident in Powers ability to get it done the right way.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • JanLorMill
        WOOF Member
        • Feb 2023
        • 1646

        Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

        Originally posted by jeemak
        Pretty ballsy move dishing off English in what is supposed to be his prime and picking up Stanley at 34 at seasons start.

        If we were going to put a contingency in place then it should have been getting Grundy last year, as nobody else will really appeal to Beveridge outside of who we already have on the list (although that would have turned out to be completely impractical given Darcy's fitness taking an upturn, which I wasn't certain of happening when I advocated getting Grundy in the first place - not to mention JUH's contract extension being put at risk if spots forward were under pressure).

        I like Lobb as a ruck, and if he's true to his word that all he wants to do is play seniors wherever that is, then I'm OK with him playing out two years with us as first ruck with a lot of support from Darcy and our other forwards. Not sure about how his body responds to that, so we'll still need to pick someone up and if it's Stanley for a year then so be it.

        This is on the proviso that we land Barrass.

        Out - English
        In - Stanley (UFA). Lobb rucks and Stanley gets paid $500K a year to be a back up
        Why would pay Stanley 500K as a UFA?

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        • JanLorMill
          WOOF Member
          • Feb 2023
          • 1646

          Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

          It’s a No for me to any young inexperienced ruck ie Visentini, Flynn, probably Reeves and Williams. We have 2 already and one is closer to being our best than most think.

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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6508

            Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

            Originally posted by JanLorMill
            It’s a No for me to any young inexperienced ruck ie Visentini, Flynn, probably Reeves and Williams. We have 2 already and one is closer to being our best than most think.
            Is Lobb as first ruck your preferred choice next year?

            I'm firmly in the 'keep English' camp, I think any other scenario weakens our first 22 heading into next year, but if he does choose the Eagles, I wouldn't mind trying to grab Harry Barnett out of them. I liked his under-18 performances but haven't seen much of what he's done since.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18925

              Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Stanley blows. We should get Ned Reeves.
              He's mobile that's about all I can say about him positively. The guy is 33 so that's a line through him. Maybe 5 years ago on the cheap.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5593

                Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                It’s a No for me to any young inexperienced ruck ie Visentini, Flynn, probably Reeves and Williams. We have 2 already and one is closer to being our best than most think.
                Flynn is 26 (only 37 games, definite injury risk) and Williams is 24 with 67 games behind him. If we're talking about Stanley, then we should be talking about them.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21666

                  Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                  Originally posted by JanLorMill
                  Why would pay Stanley 500K as a UFA?
                  Because rucks are expensive.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • JanLorMill
                    WOOF Member
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 1646

                    Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    Because rucks are expensive.
                    Delisted ones aren’t

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                    • soupman
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5094

                      Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                      Originally posted by jazzadogs
                      How about Visentini from Port? Third in line behind Soldo and Sweet, 21yo, from Melbourne. Stats look okay from his games earlier this year but probably a) not a Bevo ruck and b) not a starting 18 ruck.

                      If English does leave for West Coast then I would ask for Bailey Williams or Matt Flynn. They're both serviceable first ruck options.

                      Kieren Strachan another back up at Crows, but they will be hoping he pushes ROB out in the next few years so don't think he'd be GETTABLE.
                      I don't think this is true. They're both 28, Strachan is approx 6 weeks younger. I think playing him ahead of O'Brien in the last two years has been more to shown dissatisfaction with the Jordan Peterson boy than true hope that Strachan becomes something better.

                      Other options could be Conway from Geelong, would dilute our compo for Smith but if they aren't gonna play ball they rate him highly and even though he's not good yet he should be serviceable next year.

                      Reeves is fine as a hitout guy but I think his around the ground work would make Bevo shudder.

                      Nic Bryan, he's the mobile type but unsure he has an actual ability to impact games and not ready to be ruck number 1.

                      Bailey Williams is the most ready to go, Bevo ish and GETTABLE though should they recruit English, plus the obvious endless fun two Bailey Williams would provide.
                      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5593

                        Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                        Originally posted by soupman
                        I don't think this is true. They're both 28, Strachan is approx 6 weeks younger. I think playing him ahead of O'Brien in the last two years has been more to shown dissatisfaction with the Jordan Peterson boy than true hope that Strachan becomes something better.

                        Other options could be Conway from Geelong, would dilute our compo for Smith but if they aren't gonna play ball they rate him highly and even though he's not good yet he should be serviceable next year.

                        Reeves is fine as a hitout guy but I think his around the ground work would make Bevo shudder.

                        Nic Bryan, he's the mobile type but unsure he has an actual ability to impact games and not ready to be ruck number 1.

                        Bailey Williams is the most ready to go, Bevo ish and GETTABLE though should they recruit English, plus the obvious endless fun two Bailey Williams would provide.
                        Thanks, I did no research on Strachan/ROB. I assumed ROB was 30+ and Strachan was mid 20s.

                        I'd be pretty comfortable with 2x Bailey Williams on our list, if English leaves.

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                        • soupman
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5094

                          Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          Thanks, I did no research on Strachan/ROB. I assumed ROB was 30+ and Strachan was mid 20s.
                          ROB moves like he was made out of foreign body parts so definitely understand thinking he is old. I thought Strachan was the guy they expected to come through for a while but he looked every bit a SANFL ruck when I saw him play this year.
                          I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10102

                            Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                            Strachan is TERRIBLE I’d be really annoyed if we picked him up to be our first ruck.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13205

                              Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                              Originally posted by Happy Days
                              Strachan is TERRIBLE I’d be really annoyed if we picked him up to be our first ruck.
                              Agreed looks like a bits part AFL player and a solid SANFL ruckman.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5518

                                Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                                Credit to Tim.
                                He has been monstered by Grundy a few times in the past, but had a good game this week
                                Got on his bike and really made Brodie work hard to chase.
                                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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