Tim English - What Price do you pay?

[Sedat]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

His finals record is now a massive albatross around his neck. Yet again in a final, his opponent was in the best 3 on the ground and had a massive impact on the end result - its real rinse and repeat stuff.

I don't know where we go with Tim. At some point the player needs to be challenged, otherwise the behaviour and output will not change.

[macca]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Tim is not a physical Ruckman and gets out position by stronger opponents.

So many times Meek had the front position. This is Meek, a bloke who could not get a game at Freo.

[SonofScray]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

I’m confident we’ve erred in putting our eggs in the English basket.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

We were so desperate we had Naughton in the ruck.
Tim is a real concern. In the important games I'm not sure he has the drive to win.
Darcy on the other hand, has it in spades.

[jeemak]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

He needs a full preseason with a lot of body contact and more strength work.

[azabob]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

He needs a full preseason with a lot of body contact and more strength work.

Mate, then what the heck has he been doing since 2017?

[Sedat]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

We were so desperate we had Naughton in the ruck.
Tim is a real concern. In the important games I'm not sure he has the drive to win.
Darcy on the other hand, has it in spades.

I have absolutely zero concerns about Darcy and his dog-hungry competitiveness. He will take over the 1st ruck mantle in the near future, and hopefully English will ease into that 2nd ruck/forward role we all know he is far better suited to.

As no 1 ruck, we are going nowhere with Tim and it has to change. It was painful but oh so predictable to witness what took place tonight.

[jeemak]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Mate, then what the heck has he been doing since 2017?

His preseason was terrible this year, it can't be that bad again.

He's come from a long way back physically, and while he will never get there to the extent we need I'd much rather that not to be an excuse for him so we can hold him accountable more thoroughly.

[merantau]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

When you're a ruckman and you like to play bruise free football you have a problem.

Here's the plan for 2025. Sam Darcy to the weights room over the summer. He is No. 1 ruck.
Naughton to CHB. English to play forward and 2nd ruck.
Buku to play forward or not at all.

[DOG GOD]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

I like it but will never happen unfortunately

[anfo27]

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I just feel as long as Tim is number 1 ruck we will never win anything. Has no presence in there. He might get nice stats but there is no stat for presence & if there was he measure in at zero or close enough to it. Not all on Tim though, as a whole we weren't up for it tonight.
My concern is Bevo talks about the person & not the player & feel like in that scenario Bevo just isn't ruthless enough.

[Hotdog60]

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Meek 46 HO's to Tim's 21 you can't win centre clearance if the fleet footed opposition is getting silver service. It was interesting to see Aaron in the ruck instead of Lobb I suppose Lobb was one of the better Backs and Aaron was getting cold up forward.

[GVGjr]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Tim falling short last night on the big stage would be part of the reason why he didn't quite get the contract he was after.
Sam Darcy's continued development is critical for us so that we can at least be more competitive.

[soupman]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Meek 46 HO's to Tim's 21 you can't win centre clearance if the fleet footed opposition is getting silver service. It was interesting to see Aaron in the ruck instead of Lobb I suppose Lobb was one of the better Backs and Aaron was getting cold up forward.

Still thought it was super odd. Naughton hasn't played ruck for us in ages, we had three ruck types in the lineup ahead of him, and I have no idea what English and Darcy were doing when he was in there.

They certainly weren't contesting the marks for our dump kicks out of defence, that was McNeils job.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

Still thought it was super odd. Naughton hasn't played ruck for us in ages, we had three ruck types in the lineup ahead of him, and I have no idea what English and Darcy were doing when he was in there.

They certainly weren't contesting the marks for our dump kicks out of defence, that was McNeils job.

Naughton in the ruck was awful. Way to send a message to the rest of the team that we've run out of ideas.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Considering Marra was have a mare-a id have run him up the ground.