Tim English - What Price do you pay?

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  • EasternWest
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 9998

    Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Pretty sure JUH started on the bench v GWS, or another game.? To me no big deal, didn't effect the game at all.
    You're the biggest English fanboi on this site. Interesting that on this thread, this is the comment you choose to reply to.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66235

      Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

      Originally posted by EasternWest
      You're the biggest English fanboi on this site. Interesting that on this thread, this is the comment you choose to reply to.
      No point is there
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

        Originally posted by bornadog
        No point is there
        No defence of his game/season, are you saying?
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66235

          Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          No defence of his game/season, are you saying?
          I am actually saying, I can't be bothered.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I am actually saying, I can't be bothered.
            Like Tim on Friday night!

            Joking BAD.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11153

              Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

              Originally posted by bornadog
              No point is there
              Agreed. There is no point defending what cannot be defended.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66235

                Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Agreed. There is no point defending what cannot be defended.
                There were 21 other players on the ground. It was not just Tim that didn't play well, but for some reason he is singled out.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • EasternWest
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9998

                  Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  There were 21 other players on the ground. It was not just Tim that didn't play well, but for some reason he is singled out.
                  There it is.

                  With 6 million 328 posts on this forum and a breadth of activity across all threads you haven't seen any criticism of any other player after that debacle?

                  I think you just can't bring yourself to admit that a) you were wrong in your strident defence of Tim and b) Tim's actually just not that good. It's not that you can't be bothered, because your amount of posts say you can always be bothered. It's that you can't admit it.

                  P.S. I love you still, but please just accept it.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11153

                    Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    There were 21 other players on the ground. It was not just Tim that didn't play well, but for some reason he is singled out.
                    Everyone who was poor on the night has been under intense scrutiny and rightly so. Bont was rubbish, so was Libba, Weightman, Marra and probably a dozen others mentioned here. I guess Bont and Libba have quite a few credits in the bank, so as stinky as their performances were (and they were beyond stinky) they have excelled in finals previously. Weightman has kicked a bag of 5 in a final before (he needs to lift as his last 3 have been putrid), Marra is young but batting 0 for 2 in finals so he sure as hell cannot perform like that again. Naughton has underperformed in finals relative to what his talent and ability demands. Williams was good on Friday but has been poor in finals previously. Even Bailey Dale has a gap between his finals output and his amazing H&A form, and Dale is a rolled gold jet.

                    Just maybe some of us are heartily sick and tired of seeing our no 1 ruckman have absolutely zero impact in a final yet again, and showing just how easily he waives the white flag against his direct opponent once again when it really matters. It's not personal - he just consistently sucks as no 1 ruck in finals/big games throughout his entire career, and speaking for myself I'm tired of seeing it/rewarding the repeated lack of performance.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66235

                      Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      There it is.

                      With 6 million 328 posts on this forum and a breadth of activity across all threads you haven't seen any criticism of any other player after that debacle?

                      I think you just can't bring yourself to admit that a) you were wrong in your strident defence of Tim and b) Tim's actually just not that good. It's not that you can't be bothered, because your amount of posts say you can always be bothered. It's that you can't admit it.

                      P.S. I love you still, but please just accept it.
                      Goodbye
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9998

                        Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Goodbye
                        Well, Leaving the forum is a bit much but you gotta do what you gotta do.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18912

                          Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                          The midfield hiding really shocked the coaching panel looking at the moves we made. English was as big part of that, our mids were looking to him for first use.

                          I mean our entire game is based on numbers at the contest, getting it inside 50 and keeping it in.

                          We removed the +1 at the contest as we couldn't contain them anywhere on the ground and had to shore up the defence.

                          We had 39 inside 50s for the game, and when it did go in it came out so easily.

                          I think we had Naughton in the ruck as a ruck/fourth mid with his follow up work thought to be capable of giving us something of a pseudo +1.

                          Bont was tagged out of it and we obliged their want moving him out of the game.

                          It was a dirty night for our system.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                            Aaron Naughton. The main guy who looked like kicking goals, who did a knee injury early this season and probably our most expensive player until Bont re-signs was playing ruck against a bigger opponent because Tim was giving us nothing in a final again. At what point does Bevo have a serious think about whether Tim is his dream ruckman?
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Aaron Naughton. The main guy who looked like kicking goals, who did a knee injury early this season and probably our most expensive player until Bont re-signs was playing ruck against a bigger opponent because Tim was giving us nothing in a final again. At what point does Bevo have a serious think about whether Tim is his dream ruckman?
                              I mean if he wants Tim as a tall mid, play as a ruck rover or winger, or HBF/high HF to the contest. For a creative coach, he’s pretty uncreative about this. Except the idea he executed above.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44380

                                Re: Tim English - What Price do you pay?

                                We've signed on with English for the longer term and while Bevo is at the helm it's not changing. Based on Darcy being such a good forward I'd be looking at some more support for English and grooming someone to really start challenging his position.
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