Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

[jeemak]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

I need convincing on that.

Tongue in cheek I know, but he ain't good enough. Let's move on. We need a small forward who can actually hit the scoreboard (Stengle would have been nice).

NO! I want to spend the next hour arguing this very point until my next masochism session starts at 1am (NUFC at home vs. Spurs).

[whythelongface]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

My comment on Treloar

Pretty harsh. What more do you want him to do?Seems to me he busts a gut running, maybe he could do more defensively (even though he is a good tackler) but he cracks in and is a bloody good asset

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

I think with us that's not the best way to judge if we're at our best. Yes those three are important players but to some extent the more we rely on them the worse we are. When we're doing really well others are stepping up and taking some of the load themselves. Sanders had 23 touches, Richards 21. No one else had over 20.

Obviously there were other important contributors, Darcy 3 goals, Jones lots of intercept marks, Weightman pressure and a couple goals, but that's too much in the hands of too few. We needed more from JJ, Bramble, Dale, Baker (though I think what he brought was impactful actually), Daniel, Gallager, Naughton, Vandermere and Williams.

I'd also hope for more from English TBH. If he was better than Stanley it wasn't by much.

We can't ask for much more from those three you mentioned (though I'd take a bit less from 2 of them at times in exchange for improved defensive efforts and more sound decision making) but there's a lot more we can ask for from nearly the majority of the 22.

Really hurts that Daniel is looking so lost

Agree. We need to share the load better. I don't think Bevo is getting this right at the moment.

[jeemak]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Agree. I think we need to give them more rest and rotate more players through the midfield. See my other post. It is an energy thing. They are such passionate, win at all cost beasts.

Both had instances when they were on their backs and not going to be pinged with the footy, but put it on their boots anyway.

Even if they were going to be pinged it would have at least slowed play.

Complete madness.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

NO! I want to spend the next hour arguing this very point until my next masochism session starts at 1am (NUFC at home vs. Spurs).

The vicious cycle never ends!

[whythelongface]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

no idea but I thought only the goal umpire can call for a review?!

Same. If it ain’t requested by the goal umpire then it is game on. You could tell by Richards reaction that he had no idea what was going on.

[jeemak]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Agree. We need to share the load better. I don't think Bevo is getting this right at the moment.

I wonder how we compare to other teams.

[hujsh]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Agree. I think we need to give them more rest and rotate more players through the midfield. See my other post. It is an energy thing. They are such passionate, win at all cost beasts.

I think with us that's not the best way to judge if we're at our best. Yes those three are important players but to some extent the more we rely on them the worse we are.

We can't ask for much more from those three you mentioned (though I'd take a bit less from 2 of them at times in exchange for improved defensive efforts and more sound decision making)

I think we're on the same page here. When we're not getting the contribution from others, those 3 step up. They get the ball but lose the ability to do those little things that matter like the defensive efforts.

[jeemak]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

The vicious cycle never ends!

It's niche perversion.

[whythelongface]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

How did you like the bit where the Cats were sixty out and he didn't put any frontal pressure onto the ball carrier and Henry got the easy lead up mark?

That was unbelievably bad.

However, his output outweighs the negatives, but he should still be subject to criticism like everyone else.

Not saying he is beyond criticism just that the criticism he attracts is at times harsh given his output.
Where is the criticism of JJ who did SFA tonight. Treloar cops a bit but is consistently one of our best.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

I think we're on the same page here. When we're not getting the contribution from others, those 3 step up. They get the ball but lose the ability to do those little things that matter like the defensive efforts.

100%. Agree. We are in violent agreement.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Treloar was good. I think he lacks a real urgency with his defensive running, and i was annoyed in that secondary stoppage late in f50 he let them come out the front;however, with Bont and Libba doing so much defensive work and not being fast he is an attacking mid so ive made peace with it.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Intercept Possesions

Khamis 10
Jones 9
Duryea 8

I thought these three were super tonight. The next for intercept possesions was Libba with 6, he was literally everywhere.

[whythelongface]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Intercept Possesions

Khamis 10
Jones 9
Duryea 8

I thought these three were super tonight. The next for intercept possesions was Libba with 6, he was literally everywhere.

Agree they were huge. Duryea was absolutely super. Not only his marking but his 2nd and 3rd efforts were great. Shanked a couple of kicks but happens when you bust a gut and expend your energy

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

They kicked some big goals on the run from outside 50m tonight too.