Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

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  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6837

    Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

    The Bont handball to West needs a bit more appreciation. It was equisitie.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21814

      Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      Intercept Possesions

      Khamis 10
      Jones 9
      Duryea 8

      I thought these three were super tonight. The next for intercept possesions was Libba with 6, he was literally everywhere.
      A lot was made of how Geelong set up to intercept but I thought our defensive structure was excellent in terms of creating intercepts.

      Our defending between the arcs and allowance of Geelong to spread to outnumber us was what killed us. It was then some of the defending by individuals was exposed.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21814

        Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
        They kicked some big goals on the run from outside 50m tonight too.
        It's literally party time when they play us. They've pinged ridiculous goals over the journey.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Bigdog
          Rookie List
          • Jan 2023
          • 347

          Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

          I like Buku. There is a lot to work with. But his still not fit enough. He gets found out at ground level and misses easy tackles.

          I think his defensive efforts will improve with more senior exposure. I think he will be a reliable league footy player in 12 months time if he gets the game time.

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          • angelopetraglia
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6837

            Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

            Originally posted by jeemak
            He had a fantastic game, as did Libba.

            But both did things at times I didn't like, particularly in the area of not locking the football in and creating another stoppage. The Cats were killing us on the spread in the first half and these guys should have done everything they could to stop that.
            Just watched the replay of this. I don't think there was that much more he could do. Even he ran a bit harder, it was not going to make a difference. He was inbetween two of players.

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4852

              Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

              Originally posted by angelopetraglia
              Intercept Possesions

              Khamis 10
              Jones 9
              Duryea 8

              I thought these three were super tonight. The next for intercept possesions was Libba with 6, he was literally everywhere.
              Yeah, tonight vindicated the decision to keep Duryea around who stood up against torrid opposition and remains the best (and only) small genuine defender on our list and gee whiz maybe we should do something to rectify that at some point.
              BORDERLINE FLYING

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6837

                Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                The VDM kick to Marra under extreme pressure for a goal was very, very good. I know we can all whack him. But credit where credit is due.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21814

                  Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  Just watched the replay of this. I don't think there was that much more he could do. Even he ran a bit harder, it was not going to make a difference. He was inbetween two of players.
                  My view on it is you run at the player with the footy and not worry about the other guy as you should have a team mate also pressing up. Force the player to execute the skill properly under pressure.

                  If it's on the half back line or on the wing, then it's different. But you can't let an easy entry in from sixty metres out against a team like Geelong. It's not OK.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6837

                    Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                    Why VDM gets a game.

                    Total Sprints

                    VDM 37
                    Tuohy 27
                    Holmes 27
                    Dempsey 26
                    Stengle 25

                    Repeated Sprints

                    VDM 8
                    Stengle 5
                    Tuohy 4
                    Holmes 4
                    Miers 4

                    Where is the other running talent on our list?

                    If VDM is fit, he is playing. Every single week.

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                    • angelopetraglia
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 6837

                      Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      My view on it is you run at the player with the footy and not worry about the other guy as you should have a team mate also pressing up. Force the player to execute the skill properly under pressure.

                      If it's on the half back line or on the wing, then it's different. But you can't let an easy entry in from sixty metres out against a team like Geelong. It's not OK.
                      Agree 100% with your thoughts on running at the player with the ball.

                      However, even if he ran straight at him, I don' think he was close enough to make a difference. Obvisoulsy up to interepration.

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                      • dog town
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1914

                        Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        How did you like the bit where the Cats were sixty out and he didn't put any frontal pressure onto the ball carrier and Henry got the easy lead up mark?

                        That was unbelievably bad.

                        However, his output outweighs the negatives, but he should still be subject to criticism like everyone else.
                        Treloar is generally under appreciated but he was awful in big contests tonight.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44620

                          Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                          Originally posted by Bigdog
                          I like Buku. There is a lot to work with. But his still not fit enough. He gets found out at ground level and misses easy tackles.

                          I think his defensive efforts will improve with more senior exposure. I think he will be a reliable league footy player in 12 months time if he gets the game time.
                          I don't think he can improve his fitness and pace so those limitations will hurt him. Super impressed with how far he's come under Daniel Pratt though.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6837

                            Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I don't think he can improve his fitness and pace so those limitations will hurt him. Super impressed with how far he's come under Daniel Pratt though.
                            Understand pace. You can't teach speed. However fitness? Fitness you can improve with work can't you?

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21814

                              Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                              I think having to put in huge minutes is going to improve Buku's overall fitness, but he'll have a lower ceiling than others and we're probably close to realising what that ceiling is.

                              He just needs to work on his craft like a madman to offset it.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44620

                                Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                Understand pace. You can't teach speed. However fitness? Fitness you can improve with work can't you?
                                He's been in the system for a decent amount of time so I don't think there is a massive amount of improvement to follow.
                                If you use the 2km time trials the club has been utilizing as a gauge of fitness he's a fair way back.
                                He's going to need to learn to run in better patterns much like Fletcher Roberts did. He's an impressive interceptor but he is a bit limited when pitted against mobile forwards.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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