Tom Barrass

[GVGjr]

Re: Tom Barrass

I feel he'd cost a lot of resources to bring over, now that Busslinger has re-signed he'd have been the player that I could have seen being the bartering chip to get Barass but I don't think there's a way to satisfy the Eagles without him.

It's a tough one, he's a very good defender but he's obviously after a long deal and West Coast will rightfully want a fair bit to part with him given he's already got a 3 year deal in front of him. Given Lobb's form, and I know it's early days, and that we have the likes of O'Donnell, Busslinger and maybe Croft all developing as potential key defenders how urgently do we actually need Barrass?

Getting him across too the Kennel will require a first rounder and we've typically kept our picks. That probably means we are banking on getting something decent if as many believe Bailey Smith walks.

I'd imagine this is a difficult deal to get done.

[Kingbiggs]

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I think it's important to remember we HAVE to offer him 5 years to get him out of there, essentially we want him right now for a flag assault for next 2-3 years, the other years he may be on the list and maybe depth by that stage if his back is no good, but he can be a leader to the younger guys for their development.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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You've gotta pay to play.

How close do we think we are to a flag? What do we think are the missing ingredients? If the answers are very close, and a key back, it's hard to argue with throwing the sink at this.

Would I do it? I'm not sure. Very good player, but injuries concern me and we'd have to cough up a lot to get him.

If we lose English but gain TB + something else, then do it.

[lemmon]

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I think to get him out of the Eagles, we'll have to sell the farm - and I don't see how a first-rounder does it unless it's top 5. The guy still has three years on his contract and the Eagles need to start getting better. You don't do that by shipping out one of your best and most experienced leaders.

They'll ask the world for him and I don't want to pay that for a 29-year-old. Even if he does request a trade...so what? They can hold him to his contract and by the time it's up he's going to be 32 and pretty close to the end.

I like him, I think he'd be great for us, but the bloke needs to fire his manager. Sounds like he signed a too-long deal on less than he's worth and they're trying to find a club that's willing to give up a huge amount of draft capital to get him out of it.

[FrediKanoute]

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Let see how lobb stands up for the rest of the season. Barass is a great player and would be a good addition, but only at the right price

[GVGjr]

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Let see how lobb stands up for the rest of the season. Barass is a great player and would be a good addition, but only at the right price

It's a fair point, a handful of good games even very good ones doesn't necessarily mean we can lock it in.
Teams will work out a way of minimising his strengths.

[bulldogtragic]

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It's a fair point, a handful of good games even very good ones doesn't necessarily mean we can lock it in.
Teams will work out a way of minimising his strengths.

Exactly. I’m stoked for Rory & the team. But Schache burst as a defender against Melbourne to accolades and destroyed Allir in the PF. Then was gone the next year. Planning for the future on a handful of good games is folly.

Lobb has played a few good games. Jones is getting older and getting injuries. JOD has a knack for knocking himself out. Coffield struggles to stay fit. Khamis is developing. Keath will retire. Gardner should be delisted next year. Buss & Croft haven’t debuted. So there’s a chance we can get a gun KPD to aggressively pursue a flag and we want to be stingy about trading. Maybe we can push for a flag with a Trav Cloke type, or maybe a Trengove. And keep our picks to develop them so they can walk out in a few years. If Barrass wanted to come and Tim & Baz want to be elsewhere. Then why not take Barrass and a first rounder to draft/trade a midfielder.

[Mofra]

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Let see how lobb stands up for the rest of the season. Barass is a great player and would be a good addition, but only at the right price

The 'right price' changes substantially if he was out of contract. Being in contract and in a rebuilding team West Coast will demand a lot to let him go.

[bulldogtragic]

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The 'right price' changes substantially if he was out of contract. Being in contract and in a rebuilding team West Coast will demand a lot to let him go.

If we allow Tim to walk there and not demand WCE trade. Additionally offer a first from Baz.

WCE: Tim, First Rounder (GEEL) & Garcia
Dogs: Turn Tim & Baz (& F2) into Barrass, First Rounder (Compo) & F1

Seems like an acceptable outcome if it could be achieved.

[Mantis]

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If we allow Tim to walk there and not demand WCE trade. Additionally offer a first from Baz.

WCE: Tim, First Rounder (GEEL) & Garcia
Dogs: Turn Tim & Baz (& F2) into Barrass, First Rounder (Compo) & F1

Seems like an acceptable outcome if it could be achieved.

If you keep trying to trade out Garcia I?m going to find out where you live BT.

[Happy Days]

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If you keep trying to trade out Garcia I?m going to find out where you live BT.

Scary Damian Barrett is that you?

We should trade Garcia for Barrass if we can. He’s good!

[bulldogtragic]

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If you keep trying to trade out Garcia I?m going to find out where you live BT.

Fair call. I’d actually prefer to keep him. But the media keep talking about him and have linked him with WCE (& Port), so he’s only in this mix based on this being a WCE mix. We’ve kept far inferior players for longer so I hope he’s extended. I think he’s got the potential to be a handy player. But I can see why his manager isn’t hiding down any speculation. With Baz out the door, I’d have thought we’d just quickly give him a quick extension and move on to others. But it’s not happening… but if WCE demanded him ima trade would you say no?

[Mantis]

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Fair call. I’d actually prefer to keep him. But the media keep talking about him and have linked him with WCE (& Port), so he’s only in this mix based on this being a WCE mix. We’ve kept far inferior players for longer so I hope he’s extended. I think he’s got the potential to be a handy player. But I can see why his manager isn’t hiding down any speculation. With Baz out the door, I’d have thought we’d just quickly give him a quick extension and move on to others. But it’s not happening… but if WCE demanded him ima trade would you say no?

I would say no.

I'm concerned what out midfield will look like in 2026 and whilst Barrass would be handy, I don't think he's not as important now, as he was 5 weeks ago when Lobb wasn't a viable option as a very competent defender.

Given the time, effort and resources we've put into JOD & Buss they need to be our key defenders when Jones gives it away.

[mighty_west]

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I look at our structure and the main reason i would have been all chips in to acquire Barrass was to fill that hole of key defender, just having Jones was never enough as i see JOD, Khamis, Coffield as third talls, with Lobb going back and playing so damn well has shifted my thoughts on Barrass sort of, IF Lobb plays out the rest of the season like this then i'm out on Tom given his likely price tag.

We are in it NOW to contend, we are not a developing side and should be aiming for success this season and beyond and adding Barrass would have plugged that gaping hole for the next 5 or so seasons (back injury pending), but that is now Lobbly's position to grab with both of his bucket hands!

[josie]

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I look at our structure and the main reason i would have been all chips in to acquire Barrass was to fill that hole of key defender, just having Jones was never enough as i see JOD, Khamis, Coffield as third talls, with Lobb going back and playing so damn well has shifted my thoughts on Barrass sort of, IF Lobb plays out the rest of the season like this then i'm out on Tom given his likely price tag.

We are in it NOW to contend, we are not a developing side and should be aiming for success this season and beyond and adding Barrass would have plugged that gaping hole for the next 5 or so seasons (back injury pending), but that is now Lobbly's position to grab with both of his bucket hands!

Agree. And hasn’t Lobb been Lobbly, Lobbly, hasn’t he been Lobbly (apologies to Lerner & Lowe).