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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

    His comments today regarding Richmond I think were spot on:




    It stinks of manipulation, opportunism and the abuse of sympathy towards a player in masking their alterior motives. If they want cousins they have got him with pick 6. I hope there are enough clubs that are not emotionally blackmailed into supporting Richmond. They have had a significant time in which to make things happen, and their actions deserve not to be rewarded.
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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10087

    #2
    Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

    Originally posted by 42-C-3
    His comments today regarding Richmond I think were spot on:




    It stinks of manipulation, opportunism and the abuse of sympathy towards a player in masking their alterior motives. If they want cousins they have got him with pick 6. I hope there are enough clubs that are not emotionally blackmailed into supporting Richmond. They have had a significant time in which to make things happen, and their actions deserve not to be rewarded.
    Agree totally. If the AFL allows this to happen, then we might as well claim the four points after a loss, as it is no less against the rules.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • Dancin' Douggy
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2877

      #3
      Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

      Yep. Agree. Take him by all means.............. with pick six.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

        Originally posted by 42-C-3
        His comments today regarding Richmond I think were spot on:




        It stinks of manipulation, opportunism and the abuse of sympathy towards a player in masking their alterior motives. If they want cousins they have got him with pick 6. I hope there are enough clubs that are not emotionally blackmailed into supporting Richmond. They have had a significant time in which to make things happen, and their actions deserve not to be rewarded.
        You really think that is what Richmond are doing?
        pretty strong words.

        Stuff Eddie! Conflict of interest again President or Journo the man is a disgrace!
        He just just spewin he didnt think of it. Rfc are exploring a special circumstances situation as did Essendon with Rama.

        Let the commission decide not Eddie Gorbachaov! Its not his decision to make.
        It's just Eddie's opinion or judgement just as it was when he decide to make investments that lost them $8million! LOL!

        Polak does have brain damage he may never play again.
        Why should Richmond be 1 man down this year. i'd like to think we would think to do the same if it were one of our boys.

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        • The Coon Dog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7578

          #5
          Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

          Originally posted by PupDog
          Polak does have brain damage he may never play again.
          Why should Richmond be 1 man down this year. i'd like to think we would think to do the same if it were one of our boys.
          Then why not make this application prior to the National Draft so everybody knew where they all stood?

          Stuff Richmond, I hope it backfires & if they do get him it blows up in their manipulative little faces!!
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
            Then why not make this application prior to the National Draft so everybody knew where they all stood?

            Stuff Richmond, I hope it backfires & if they do get him it blows up in their manipulative little faces!!
            I don't get it?
            What is the fuss of doing it before the draft no team wanted him they had their chance just like we did.
            Would any team have taken him only if they thought rfc were going to take him?

            Is the whole world gone cynical or am i naive to what is going on?

            Polak was training upto this week Rfc were giving him every chance. he is a key position player they would like to have fit & well i reckon.

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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7578

              #7
              Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

              Originally posted by PupDog
              I don't get it?
              What is the fuss of doing it before the draft no team wanted him they had their chance just like we did.
              Would any team have taken him only if they thought rfc were going to take him?

              Is the whole world gone cynical or am i naive to what is going on?

              Polak was training upto this week Rfc were giving him every chance. he is a key position player they would like to have fit & well i reckon.
              Richmond already have a pick in the Pre Season Draft. If they want Ben Cousins, then by all means use that pick to draft him.

              They brought Polak into the equation to garner sympathy. It's a typical cynical attempt by Richmond who want to have their cake & be able to eat it too.
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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11117

                #8
                Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                Out of topic - TCD can you check your PM's.

                On topic, it should be a non issue as already discussed. If they want him, fine - but use Pick 6 and don't try and manipulate the system.
                W00F!

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                • BulldogBelle
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5284

                  #9
                  Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                  I read the article in the HS today, I can understand where Eddie is coming from - and he is entitled to his opinion.

                  If Richmond get the go ahead from the AFL to place Polak on the rookie list so as to obtain another pick to draft Cousins then so be it - Cuz will get another chance to resurrect his career. I wish him well.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44318

                    #10
                    Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                    I loathed Eddie for a number of years but have a new found respect for him with what he has done for the Pies and even the assistance he has given us. I'm not sure that he has got this issue 100% right though.

                    If Cousins wants to play and there is a club wanting to take that risk (and it is a big one) I would have thought that we should give that every opportunity to happen. I know the Tigers are treading a dangerous line of manipulating things and they are playing the sympathy card with the Polak issue but a rehabbed Cousins would be a great thing for the game.

                    Not sure why the Tigers are being so bloody minded on having to draft a youngster with the first pick but I suspect that if they don't get what they want with Polak they will still draft Cousins anyway.
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                    • Scraggers
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3550

                      #11
                      Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                      Richmond's audacity in comparing the Rama situation at Essendon to that of Polak's is the real low blow here ...

                      Rama was struck down by a disease that was out of his control ... he fought it and won

                      Polak was drunk and hit by a tram ... and whilst I wish no ill-will on him, it was his actions that night that put him in that situation.

                      Now I reiterate, I wish no ill-will on Polak, in fact I really hope Polak recovers and plays good footy again, but you can't compare the two cases !!


                      Therefore, if Richmond want Cousins, use pick 6 !!

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15322

                        #12
                        Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                        Originally posted by Scraggers
                        Richmond's audacity in comparing the Rama situation at Essendon to that of Polak's is the real low blow here ...

                        Rama was struck down by a disease that was out of his control ... he fought it and won

                        Polak was drunk and hit by a tram ... and whilst I wish no ill-will on him, it was his actions that night that put him in that situation.

                        Now I reiterate, I wish no ill-will on Polak, in fact I really hope Polak recovers and plays good footy again, but you can't compare the two cases !!

                        Therefore, if Richmond want Cousins, use pick 6 !!
                        Are you sure this is correct?

                        The reports I have heard in the media have reported that Polak was sober when struck by the tram.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44318

                          #13
                          Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Are you sure this is correct?

                          The reports I have heard in the media have reported that Polak was sober when struck by the tram.

                          I heard the same.
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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            #14
                            Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                            Whilst Eddie's no 1 priority is Collingwood, he has done alot of work in keeping Vic clubs afloat.
                            If it was not for him, its fair to say we would not have had Leaseplan as a mjor sponsor.

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #15
                              Re: For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

                              There is one major reason the two cases are different.

                              Ramanaskas was out of contract and would have been delisted.

                              Polak is still on contract next year so he will be getting paid regardless. How will transferring him to a different list help his recovery?

                              All putting Polak on the mature rookie list will do is give Richmond salary cap relief.

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