For once I agree with Eddie McGuire

[GVGjr]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Richmond a) delist Gourdis & b) pass on their last pick in the National Draft??

Sure did but in between then and now they committed to select him again before Cousins became a viable option.
Passing on the last pick isn't a bad idea but it does show that they were clearly uncertain of what they actually wanted to do.

[GVGjr]

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I'd love to see all the clubs say that they wouldn't draft Gourdis until the 2nd round of the rookie draft if he was still available to really put the acid test on the Tigers to select Cousins.

[LostDoggy]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Richmond a) delist Gourdis & b) pass on their last pick in the National Draft??

So, it's basically an entire sh*thole of their own doing -- delisting a kid and then committing to re-recruiting him through the pre-season draft and then changing their mind because of circumstances (Cousins) and because another club wants to draft the kid they've delisted and wasting a commission's time and money and yards of newsprint to untangle their own twisted entrails is typical of the kind of absolute shamozzle of a thinking process they have down at Tigerland.

You make your bed, you LIE in it. If Freo get Gourdis it's because Richmond delisted him in the first place when they didn't have to. You can't make stupid decisions and then ask Big Brother to dig you out of a hole. Suck eggs, Wallet.

[westdog54]

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So, it's basically an entire sh*thole of their own doing -- delisting a kid and then committing to re-recruiting him through the pre-season draft and then changing their mind because of circumstances (Cousins) and because another club wants to draft the kid they've delisted and wasting a commission's time and money and yards of newsprint to untangle their own twisted entrails is typical of the kind of absolute shamozzle of a thinking process they have down at Tigerland.

You make your bed, you LIE in it. If Freo get Gourdis it's because Richmond delisted him in the first place when they didn't have to. You can't make stupid decisions and then ask Big Brother to dig you out of a hole. Suck eggs, Wallet.

Not a lot in here I disagree with.

Richmond have stuffed around trying to figure out what to do, and it has blown up in their faces. Its now their call. Do they roll the dice and see if Gourdis falls through to the Rookie list, or do they pass up an All Australian, Brownlow Medallist and Premiership player.

[bulldogtragic]

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Richmond wallowing in their own excrament.

Is their anything better?

[Missing Dog]

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Okay, is there something I'm missing here?

Yes.

Salary Cap relief.

If Polak was put on the rookie list, his $300,000 salary would be outside the salary cap, leaving Richmond $420,000 to spend on 2 players.

As it stands now, Richmond can only has $120,000 left in its cap. If Cousins wants to play, he'll be playing for $120,000 in 2009 and Gourdis will be playing for $40,000.

Can someone please answer this question. When a rookie is promoted to the senior list when another player is put on the long term injury list (say Polak), does that rookies new salary get included in the cap.

[G-Mo77]

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What would have happened with Polak's salary had he been rookied? Would it have counted? I really think the whole thing was to do with TPP. I don't think they can afford Cousins now. I could be wrong but I did here something about them being close to the cap during trade week.

[Missing Dog]

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What would have happened with Polak's salary had he been rookied? Would it have counted? I really think the whole thing was to do with TPP. I don't think they can afford Cousins now. I could be wrong but I did here something about them being close to the cap during trade week.

Polaks salary would have been outside the cap.

[The Underdog]

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Yes.

Salary Cap relief.

If Polak was put on the rookie list, his $300,000 salary would be outside the salary cap, leaving Richmond $420,000 to spend on 2 players.

As it stands now, Richmond can only has $120,000 left in its cap. If Cousins wants to play, he'll be playing for $120,000 in 2009 and Gourdis will be playing for $40,000.

Can someone please answer this question. When a rookie is promoted to the senior list when another player is put on the long term injury list (say Polak), does that rookies new salary get included in the cap.

Aren't players given a 2 year contract when they are drafted? Therefore wouldn't Gourdis' salary already count against this years cap even if he has been delisted. They'd have to pay him either way as this would be his 2nd year on the list. Unless my understanding of the situation is wrong, they'd be paying him the same regardless of if he was redrafted, rookied or neither.

[The Coon Dog]

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Richmond drafted Ben Cousins with pick 6 in the PSD.

[G-Mo77]

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So obviuously they had no problems fitting him in under the TPP. Very surprised about this pick. I look forward to hearing all the Richmond supporters talking their team up only to finish outside of the 8 again.

[Sedat]

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Interesting that the great humanitarians at Tigerland dumped Gourdis after one year (whose is rumoured to suffer from depression, which was allegedly a contributing factor to him being dumped from the senior list), then they allegedly promised to pick him up again with PSD pick 6, but have now taken a back flip and used that pick on Cousins. It's all about welfare at Punt Rd, Wallace's welfare.

[LostDoggy]

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Makes good radio anyway. Something to talk about this time of year.

[Twodogs]

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So Cousins is playing for beer tickets?

[LostDoggy]

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Rookie Draft is underway
Pick 1- Jordan McKenzie (dees)
Pick 2 Liam Bedford (eagles)
Pick 3- Casey Sibosado (freo)