Ins and Outs Round 4?

[Sedat]

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Big danger game this week. We are a better side than West Coast but they will rebound heavily after their meek display against the Saints, and they have vowed to make Subiaco a fortress for them once again. The short preparation coupled with our ardurous first 3 rounds (long travel week 1, wet slog week 2, warm conditions week 3) not to mention the travel load having to go to Perth again, makes for a tricky assignment this week.

Harbrow is a definite inclusion this week, possibly Everitt as well. Exclusions will be dependant on the MRP (in Picken's case) and opposition mach-ups. Tiller might be sacrificed if he hasn't got a decent match-up. Grant is an interesting one. Subiaco would not be a bad place for him to make his debut as he will find plenty of space and can use his pace off the mark to good effect. Plus West Coast have a pretty young defence themselves so Grant won't be playing against hardened gorillas - I'd have him in the mix this week.

[Rocco Jones]

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Maybe Welsh just felt wierd and embarrassed that he was twice the age of his opponent.

Yeah definitely. I was thinking of that as part of a 'run' with Willy, perhaps he wasn't sent out there to do much more than get some more run into his legs.

I'm not sure about sending Skipper into the ruck against Cox, although could potentially follow him around.

There's a couple of reasons I would think about doing it:
- 6 day break for WA trip, which would be especially hard for a ruckman (I guess it is at least somewhat countered by Minson spending less TOG than most), I would still plan for Minson to be back the next week.
- Skipper had a decent showing against Cox in 07 and I think he might be better suited to keeping up with Cox. Hudson and Minson don't offer too much variety.
- Skipper has been strong at VFL level, it would be good to both reward him and see if he is actually up to it.

[Dazza]

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Grant isn't physically ready as in fitness levels or just size in general? Yesterday we had Hill playing that long bomb option for a good period of the game and he did quite well without having a large strong body. If Welsh is injured I'd say we might be tempted to give Grant a run.

[Rocco Jones]

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Tiller might be sacrificed if he hasn't got a decent match-up. Grant is an interesting one.

The Eagles have been playing with a tall forward. Lynch, McKinley, Hansen and Hunter all played forward last week and Josh Kennedy can't get into the side. Subi size probably leads itself to playing an extra tallish type as well.

[Rocco Jones]

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Grant isn't physically ready as in fitness levels or just size in general? Yesterday we had Hill playing that long bomb option for a good period of the game and he did quite well without having a large strong body. If Welsh is injured I'd say we might be tempted to give Grant a run.

From what I have seen he isn't physically up to being a KP, lacks physical strength. I don't think his disposal is up to being a flanker/lead-up target atm.

[Sedat]

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The Eagles have been playing with a tall forward. Lynch, McKinley, Hansen and Hunter all played forward last week and Josh Kennedy can't get into the side. Subi size probably leads itself to playing an extra tallish type as well.

Might be Ward to get sacrificed then? Probably out of him or Picken, again match-ups will determine. Good healthy competition for places in the line-up ATM.

[Rocco Jones]

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Might be Ward to get sacrificed then? Probably out of him or Picken, again match-ups will determine. Good healthy competition for places in the line-up ATM.

Yeah the competition is great. Guys who just make our 22 are playing roles rather than just trying to get enough touches to keep their spot in the side and Eade seems to be using a horses for courses theory to select his last couple of players each week.

As I posted earlier, I really can't see a match up for Picken against the Eagles. He seems the sacrificial lamb type that takes outside, explosive and damaging types out of the game.

[comrade]

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As I posted earlier, I really can't see a match up for Picken against the Eagles. He seems the sacrificial lamb type that takes outside, explosive and damaging types out of the game.

Kerr?

Clinton Jones did a ripper job on the weekend.

[Rocco Jones]

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Kerr?

Clinton Jones did a ripper job on the weekend.

Just copying and pasting from my earlier post

-Picken is an interesting one for me. He has been great against Harvey and Deledio in the last two weeks but I don't think the Eagles have anyone he is suited to. Kerr is more of an inside player and using Picken on him would mean we would have to sacrifice someone in the guts. Either way, Boyd has a great record on Kerr. Priddis is no more near damaging enough to warrant a hard tag and Embley is struggling.

I would be hesitant to place a hard tag on such an inside player as I think it's a massive sacrifice to winning your own ball. Also it's a very different job to stopping guys like Harvey and Deledio. Also, as I mentioned before, Boyd has a good work. Jones' job was great not because he stopped Kerr from getting the ball (what Picken does) but because he did something with it while putting a heap of pressure on Kerr when he got his own touches.

The only inside types I would consider placing such a hard tag on are Ablett and Judd.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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I thought Minson was good this week and I cant see Skipper coming in against the Eagles

[Mofra]

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Try one, maybe two. Griffen and Minson had one each and I can't remember whether it was Hargrave, Picken or Tiller who had the other.

Not counting the one that was called in too which looked out? Still looked poor - much worse than the couple of beautiful long kicks he set up scoring shots with in the Geelong prelim.


Either way, Cooney out presents a problem. Welsh would be a welcome addition to the side normally, but on the larger ground (and after a short break) we might go for a running type - Harbrow didn't play for Willy so should be fresh for the match too after the short break.

[LostDoggy]

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Grant isn't physically ready as in fitness levels or just size in general? Yesterday we had Hill playing that long bomb option for a good period of the game and he did quite well without having a large strong body. If Welsh is injured I'd say we might be tempted to give Grant a run.

You've got to remember, if you put Grant up forward, there's a fella by the name of Darren Glass waiting for him - former All Australian Full Back and captain of the Weagles.
Do you really want to throw the young fella to the wolves?

[Ozza]

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You've got to remember, if you put Grant up forward, there's a fella by the name of Darren Glass waiting for him - former All Australian Full Back and captain of the Weagles.
Do you really want to throw the young fella to the wolves?

Glass would always go to Johnno. And if not Johnno - then Hahn.
But in any case - I don't think its that likely Grant will debut just yet.

[Go_Dogs]

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I thought Minson was good this week and I cant see Skipper coming in against the Eagles

I agree. Not sure what Will did to get Rocco offside, but thought he was a pretty good contributor on the day.

[Rocco Jones]

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I agree. Not sure what Will did to get Rocco offside, but thought he was a pretty good contributor on the day.

Nothing really. I thought he was decent but with the short turnaround, trip to WA and Skippers form in the VFL I thought it was worth considering giving Skip a go for a week.