Ins and Outs Round 4?

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  • Scorlibo
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 3084

    #31
    Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

    Out: Cooney, Tiller
    In: Grant, Everitt

    Cooney will miss definitely - and I'm pleased about the surgery, he certainly hasn't looked anywhere near his best. Tiller was solid but made a few mistakes and Everitt's run will be more of a plus on the Subiaco expanse. Grant comes in because I think it's between him and Welsh for the spot and Grant's performance last weekend and his speed at Subiaco put him ahead.
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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #32
      Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

      With news that Cooney will miss... I'd give Welsh the nod. I still think Grant's not physically ready. I'd prefer to give the spot to a proven performer. Hope surgery does the trick for Coons, my fear is that will put him back for even more rehab. Obviously it's not that invasive, hope it works well.
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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #33
        Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        While he's squarely in the 'fringe player' category I'm otherwise unclear on the calls for Tiller's omission...I'm generally not his biggest fan but would argue he's been pretty solid for us across half-back thus far.
        I do like his work in the back line. Just think he had some howlers in terms of disposal, and as a fringe player, he can't afford to. The likes of Johnson, Akermanis etc can afford a few, but someone who is just in the team can't afford to make those bad errors.
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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6515

          #34
          Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          With news that Cooney will miss... I'd give Welsh the nod. I still think Grant's not physically ready. I'd prefer to give the spot to a proven performer. Hope surgery does the trick for Coons, my fear is that will put him back for even more rehab. Obviously it's not that invasive, hope it works well.
          IMO swapping Coons for Welsh would mean Aker and Johno would have to push into the midfield and ideally we'd prefer them closer to goal

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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6515

            #35
            Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

            I would prefer for us not to tinker to expansively, if its aint broke dont fix it.
            Out
            Cooney-Injured
            Johno/Aker (depending on who pulls up better)- Give one of the old fellas a week off and keep them fresh

            In
            Reid/Wood- Fairly even pecking at the moment, whoever has the best week on the track should get the nod
            Welsh- Time to bring him back

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66546

              #36
              Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

              Out Cooney, Aker (rest)

              In Welsh, Everrit
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              • Bulldog Revolution
                Coaching Staff
                • Dec 2006
                • 3925

                #37
                Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                In: Reid

                Out: Cooney

                Harbrow for Picken if suspended

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                • Ozza
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6412

                  #38
                  Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  Tiller's 3 or 4 OOB on the full didn't look good. If we're after another tall backman, Everitt may be pushing him.
                  Welsh has to come in, we are better with him in the side. Hill lacks intensity for 4 quarters - although he seems to be a 4th quarter specialist who has still earned his place in the side.
                  Harbrow must be close as well.
                  Agree on Tiller. I'm still not convinced he is up to it. Awful with the football.

                  Hill was outstanding today. The kid is a freak. He needs to play every week.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #39
                    Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                    Originally posted by Ozza
                    Agree on Tiller. I'm still not convinced he is up to it. Awful with the football.

                    Hill was outstanding today. The kid is a freak. He needs to play every week.
                    I'd prefer to see Tiller moved forward.

                    Lake, Tommy, Everitt, Hargrave, Morris, Gilbee and DFA and others to run off HB. I'd like to see him switched to deep forward to see what he is capable of. From recollection, he played forward in his junior days.
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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17984

                      #40
                      Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                      Originally posted by 42-C-3
                      I'd prefer to see Tiller moved forward.

                      Lake, Tommy, Everitt, Hargrave, Morris, Gilbee and DFA and others to run off HB. I'd like to see him switched to deep forward to see what he is capable of. From recollection, he played forward in his junior days.
                      Not a bad idea - I can see Stevie T becoming a utility in the mould of the 2005/6 version of Adam Hunter or current day version of Brendan Goddard. Obviously, he’ll most likely never reach those lofty heights, but I think he has an important role to play. His kicking needs work but his decision making and attack at the contest were very good yesterday.

                      All of a sudden we’re a team of hard nuts:

                      Hargrave, Williams, Morris, Addison, Tiller, Lake, Picken, Ward, Griffen, Hahn, Minson, Hudson, Cooney, Boyd and Cross are all genuine contested ball winners who enjoy the physical stuff.
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                      • Before I Die
                        Senior Player
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1031

                        #41
                        Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Tiller's 3 or 4 OOB on the full didn't look good. If we're after another tall backman, Everitt may be pushing him.
                        Welsh has to come in, we are better with him in the side. Hill lacks intensity for 4 quarters - although he seems to be a 4th quarter specialist who has still earned his place in the side.
                        Harbrow must be close as well.
                        Try one, maybe two. Griffen and Minson had one each and I can't remember whether it was Hargrave, Picken or Tiller who had the other. With Hargrave, Gillbee, Lake and Addison we are not lacking run, what we need is a tall who is hard and aggressive at the ball and the man and who gets to a lot of aerial contests to create a spoil. I think Tiller is very important in the team at the moment.

                        In: Welsh or maybe an extra mid-fielder (Harbrow/Reid)

                        Out: Cooney (Inj)
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                          Welsh in for Higgins and move HIggins into the midfield for Cooney.

                          I agree Ward and Williams need as much game time as possible. You can already see the improvement in th both of them already - good times ahead people

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                          • The Underdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6853

                            #43
                            Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                            In: Welsh, Wood

                            Out: Cooney (inj), Akermanis (rested)

                            Lot of competition for places. I liked Tiller's game yesterday, he seems to work well in that back 6 and is growing in confidence. I think Subi would be a great place to give Easton Wood his first game. Think he'd be good in the open space and it seems as though his form for Willi warrants it. If Welsh is fit he should come in for Aker who will go out if they are serious about resting him throughout the year, although I don't think he'll go quietly. The other variable is what happens with Picken at the MRP today. I think he might be in a little more trouble than many think. His punch was nowhere near the ball and Deledio came off bleeding.
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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6928

                              #44
                              Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                              -I would bring in Harbrow for Cooney.

                              -I would consider Skipper for Minson.

                              -Aker: Would love to rest him but with Bobby and Coons out we really need him in. He made comments after the game that there's no way he will sit out this weeks game.

                              -Apparently Welsh was very quiet in his half against the AIS squad. I don't know how much of that was due to him struggling and how much was it due to it just being a final run for Willy before coming back.

                              -Grant: I don't know if dominating against U/17's really proves much about whether he is physically ready for AFL. My short term problem with Grant is that he isn't physically ready to play as a KP and his disposal isn't up to standard to play as a flanker/lead up target.

                              -Picken is an interesting one for me. He has been great against Harvey and Deledio in the last two weeks but I don't think the Eagles have anyone he is suited to. Kerr is more of an inside player and using Picken on him would mean we would have to sacrifice someone in the guts. Either way, Boyd has a great record on Kerr. Priddis is no more near damaging enough to warrant a hard tag and Embley is struggling.

                              So in short:

                              IN: Harbrow, Skipper, Everitt (perhaps Welsh)
                              OUT: Cooney, Minson, Picken (super harsh, back next week)

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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6853

                                #45
                                Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                                -I would bring in Harbrow for Cooney.

                                -I would consider Skipper for Minson.

                                -Aker: Would love to rest him but with Bobby and Coons out we really need him in. He made comments after the game that there's no way he will sit out this weeks game.

                                -Apparently Welsh was very quiet in his half against the AIS squad. I don't know how much of that was due to him struggling and how much was it due to it just being a final run for Willy before coming back.

                                -Grant: I don't know if dominating against U/17's really proves much about whether he is physically ready for AFL. My short term problem with Grant is that he isn't physically ready to play as a KP and his disposal isn't up to standard to play as a flanker/lead up target.

                                -Picken is an interesting one for me. He has been great against Harvey and Deledio in the last two weeks but I don't think the Eagles have anyone he is suited to. Kerr is more of an inside player and using Picken on him would mean we would have to sacrifice someone in the guts. Either way, Boyd has a great record on Kerr. Priddis is no more near damaging enough to warrant a hard tag and Embley is struggling.

                                So in short:

                                IN: Harbrow, Skipper, Everitt (perhaps Welsh)
                                OUT: Cooney, Minson, Picken (super harsh, back next week)
                                Maybe Welsh just felt wierd and embarrassed that he was twice the age of his opponent.
                                I'm not sure about sending Skipper into the ruck against Cox, although could potentially follow him around.
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