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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

    I need some more thinking time.
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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17932

    #2
    Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

    Out:
    Hahn, Gia, Addison

    In:
    Skipper, O'Keefe, Ward

    Would also consider Callan, Reid and Grant.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15324

      #3
      Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

      Originally posted by comrade
      Out:
      Hahn, Gia, Addison

      In:
      Skipper, O'Keefe, Ward

      Would also consider Callan, Reid and Grant.
      Ward really struggled with his 'burst' play (away from stoppages & broken play) in his first 5 games with us. Do you think that it has improved in just 1 week?

      Also do we really need to add another 'slowish' yet tough midfielder with suspect foot skills to the team? Thinking about it there ain't to many others who don't fit this category.... So much for our 'great' depth.

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      • Missing-Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 3102

        #4
        Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

        Out
        Hahn, Gia, Gilbee

        In
        Skipper, Reid, OKeefe


        Hope they leave Skipper up forward so he can create a marking contest when we kick a rainmaker towards the goals

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17932

          #5
          Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Ward really struggled with his 'burst' play (away from stoppages & broken play) in his first 5 games with us. Do you think that it has improved in just 1 week?

          Also do we really need to add another 'slowish' yet tough midfielder with suspect foot skills to the team? Thinking about it there ain't to many others who don't fit this category.... So much for our 'great' depth.
          It's more about rewarding good form - I thought Ward responded well to having a spell.

          If we really want to inject some pace and creativity, Brennan Stack is the man. I can't see it happening though.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

            Out: Western Bulldogs
            In: Williamstown Seagulls

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

              I cant see Hahn being dropped...and it frustrates me that we don't just drop out of form players..

              With Murphy & Hahn not getting the job done we need to to do something different.

              Last year when we played Adelaide we had Skipper & Reid in. Both had a decent game, i think we gotta take them 2 up this week or at least try an O'Keefe because our current squad is simply NOT. GETTING. IT. DONE. EADE.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                Outs: Hahn, Eagleton, Gia

                Ins: Skipper, Ward, O'Keefe

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15324

                  #9
                  Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  It's more about rewarding good form - I thought Ward responded well to having a spell.
                  But the question remains has he had enough time to work on his deficiencies such that his next stint in the senior team is more successful than his first stint.

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                  • BulldogBelle
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5284

                    #10
                    Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                    Out:
                    Hahn, Gia, Addison, Harbrow

                    In:
                    Skipper, O'Keefe, Williams, Callan

                    Hahn is really struggling at the moment. He rarely is in the right position and rarely gets off the ground when in a marking contest. Think playing him AS the centre half forward effectively he gets matched up on a taller oponent who gets off the ground.

                    Minson took a few grabs tonight against the Saints, but also think our forward line would benefit from having Skipper there, with Aker, Johnson etc at his feet.

                    Gia was SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW tonight, slow to contests, and slow when he got the ball, he needs to find some form at Williamstown.

                    Addison got caught too many times, his disposal isnt great

                    Harbrow, although he contested well, was late and beaten to most contests, and a large number of his dispsals were very ineffective

                    Either O'Keefe or Grant to come in the side to play as a lead up forward alongside Murphy, with Skip and Minson taking the contests.

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17932

                      #11
                      Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      But the question remains has he had enough time to work on his deficiencies such that his next stint in the senior team is more successful than his first stint.
                      It's a tough one because his major deficiency is his inability to accelerate and burst away at AFL level but how can he work at that at Williamstown, where the pace and intensity is so much different?

                      He'll only get better with more game time at the highest level, it's whether we're prepared for some short term pain.

                      An option could be to play him forward - he's good overhead and probably smart enough to get away. He's also a handy shot for goal. From there he can rotate through the midfield?
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • The Pie Man
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2008
                        • 3498

                        #12
                        Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                        I think Skipper has to play - could the beard be in any trouble? He wasn't flash with the ball today. Not the 1st time this has been asked - can Minson/Beard/Skip be in the same 22?

                        Would you keep Everitt in? Some questionable decision making but I'd like to think he's in our best 22 when up and going. He looks a bit bigger this year which is pleasing.

                        I think Reid is also right behind Skip on the door.

                        You'd think Williams would come straight back in. A few decisions may depend on the weather.

                        Giansiracusa has had a really ordinary month now. Griffen too (not that he should get dropped) Hahn has to be running out of chances. Eagleton was serviceable
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                        • Missing-Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3102

                          #13
                          Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                          [QUOTE=Dog House;82450]Out:


                          Harbrow, although he contested well, was late and beaten to most contests, and a large number of his dispsals were very ineffective

                          QUOTE]




                          I thought he did a good job. Milne had no effect or goals on the game, in a winning St kilda team.

                          Only thing id prefer is to have him up forward so he can put some takling pressure on in the forward 50.

                          No one else up there seems to be doing it, to an great effect. Hahn use too

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15324

                            #14
                            Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            It's a tough one because his major deficiency is his inability to accelerate and burst away at AFL level but how can he work at that at Williamstown, where the pace and intensity is so much different?

                            He'll only get better with more game time at the highest level, it's whether we're prepared for some short term pain.

                            An option could be to play him forward - he's good overhead and probably smart enough to get away. He's also a handy shot for goal. From there he can rotate through the midfield?
                            Some good points there.

                            On the forward option I suppose he would have to displace one of our other medium sized/ small forwards which is a real possibility as a couple of them are really struggling.

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                            • Guest

                              #15
                              Re: Ins and Outs Versus Adelaide at AAMI

                              Originally posted by Dog House
                              Out:
                              Hahn, Gia, Addison, Harbrow

                              In:
                              Skipper, O'Keefe, Williams, Callan

                              Hahn is really struggling at the moment. He rarely is in the right position and rarely gets off the ground when in a marking contest. Think playing him AS the centre half forward effectively he gets matched up on a taller oponent who gets off the ground.

                              Minson took a few grabs tonight against the Saints, but also think our forward line would benefit from having Skipper there, with Aker, Johnson etc at his feet.

                              Gia was SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW tonight, slow to contests, and slow when he got the ball, he needs to find some form at Williamstown.

                              Addison got caught too many times, his disposal isnt great

                              Harbrow, although he contested well, was late and beaten to most contests, and a large number of his dispsals were very ineffective

                              Either O'Keefe or Grant to come in the side to play as a lead up forward alongside Murphy, with Skip and Minson taking the contests.

                              Eade rated Harbrow our best player tonight - he was far from the worst.

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