Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

**LostDoggy** · 10-06-2009, 12:27 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Stack-dawg.

**Bornadog** · 10-06-2009, 12:49 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Dant� Hicks

Stack-dawg.

Please elaborate what this means?

**LostDoggy** · 10-06-2009, 01:02 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by bornadog

Please elaborate what this means?

It's my nickname for Stack.

STACK-DAWG.

**G-Mo77** · 10-06-2009, 02:10 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Mofra

If you want an opinion on someone else, start a thread on someone else then.

Oh please!

My point is that it is not real fair to put a first gamer under the microscope. If you put every player under the microscope you are going to see errors. We have gotten a play by play of nearly everything he did on Friday which I think is very harsh. You had no problem earlier in the year ripping a first gamer while playing the "I told You so" card so I see why you defend it.

I don't see the point in standing around in a apoplexic fit and declaring a great debut by a kid who clearly is in the developmental stage of his career and has some areas of his football to work on. If Stack turns into a gun impact player and forces his way into our best 22 in 2010, will people still be upset by a negative review of his first game?

All I have said about his game on Friday is that he looked nervous and would like to see him get another shot more settled. There aren't exactly rave reviews about his first game in this thread either, no one has declared it was a great debut either. Stop exaggerating to try and make your point look that little bit more important.

Originally posted by The Coon Dog

I don't think you do, get the point, that is.

Sockeye's criticisms as I see it were more at some of the earlier posters portrayed Stack's debut into something it was not, rather than the lad himself.

Let's all take the rose coloured glasses off for just a moment. It was fantastic that we had a youngster debut, but it was not by any stretch of the imagination a great game by Brennan Stack, most debuts aren't.

Again I haven't read any rave reviews on his debut in this thread, I really don't think many are looking through Rose Coloured Glasses TCD. Maybe I don't get the point he's trying to make. I don't see the point in focusing on everything a first gamer does and picking out the mistakes just to say "I Told you so" to a few people on a forum.

**Cyberdoggie** · 10-06-2009, 02:36 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by The Coon Dog

I don't think you do, get the point, that is.

Sockeye's criticisms as I see it were more at some of the earlier posters portrayed Stack's debut into something it was not, rather than the lad himself.

Let's all take the rose coloured glasses off for just a moment. It was fantastic that we had a youngster debut, but it was not by any stretch of the imagination a great game by Brennan Stack, most debuts aren't.

He'll be better for the experience, hopefully nowhere near as nervous & will show the freakish skills he often shows at training, but not so much on game day.

Well said

**Mofra** · 10-06-2009, 05:47 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by G-Mo77

Oh please!

Was there a "positive review only" disclaimer on this thread?

Originally posted by G-Mo77

My point is that it is not real fair to put a first gamer under the microscope. If you put every player under the microscope you are going to see errors. We have gotten a play by play of nearly everything he did on Friday which I think is very harsh. You had no problem earlier in the year ripping a first gamer while playing the "I told You so" card so I see why you defend it.

A differing opinion was offered, and half the board went into a fit that anyone would dare suggest a debut was anything other than a raging success. Would you expect someone to back up their claims or just stop posting? I would prefer to hear another opinion, even if I disagree with it.

This place would be fairly boring if only one point of view was offered on every issue, as much as a few people seem to be sensitive over any difference of opinion.

If you want to refer back to the Grant issue, I mentioned he looked unfit before anyone posted information from Rocket, and I was after an explanation of why people thought his debut was good, and why a skinny unfit kid would develop faster in the AFL than in the VFL. If the issue is so important to you, perhaps you'd like to address the issue now (you know, play the ball instead of the man)?

**The Adelaide Connection** · 10-06-2009, 06:33 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Holy batshit batman, this thread is going to be bigger than the Eagleton one soon. Unless of course Eagleton has a bad game, I am guessing the haters will come back out of the woodwork faster than Richmond supporters with a bit of preseason Cousins fever

**LostDoggy** · 10-06-2009, 07:40 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon

Watched the first quarter a gain tonight.

Laid a tackle on Tambling, Tambling got it away though.

Made a good lead but Newman read it well and cut it off.

Dropped a handball from Gia (under pressure)

Won a loose ball and fed off a handball to Higgins that ended in a goal to Aker (via Gia).

Bad fumble right on 1/4 time on Richmond's 50 - saved by the bell.

You forgot to mention his nervous enthusiasm and his willingness to make a contest at every opportunity

Look forward to your next one Brennan

PS. Love your other posts SS

**G-Mo77** · 10-06-2009, 08:30 PM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Mofra

A differing opinion was offered, and half the board went into a fit that anyone would dare suggest a debut was anything other than a raging success. Would you expect someone to back up their claims or just stop posting? I would prefer to hear another opinion, even if I disagree with it.

This place would be fairly boring if only one point of view was offered on every issue[/B], as much as a few people seem to be sensitive over any difference of opinion

Half the board? Raging Success? once again you're exaggerating. A few people said it was a little harsh and I agreed with that. I'll say it again, you quote my post why don't you take the time to read it. I have not seen any rave reviews about Stack's debut on here. Show me one. There was never any need to over analyse Stack's (Did I mention it was his first game

) game on Friday, it was poor form.

I've made my points, and quite clearly Mofra go back and read them.

Originally posted by Mofra

Was there a "positive review only" disclaimer on this thread?

What were you saying about play the ball instead of the man?

**Mofra** · 11-06-2009, 08:21 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by G-Mo77

I'll say it again, you quote my post why don't you take the time to read it. I have not seen any rave reviews about Stack's debut on here.

Take a look from the start of the thread then. Comments on brilliant position, attack, etc. etc. A couple of people disagreed and all of a sudden people think there's a vendetta against the kid. Is there an age limit on criticism?

I didn't see anyone "taking pleasure in running down a first gamer" either as you said.

Originally posted by G-Mo77

A few people said it was a little harsh and I agreed with that.

No, you said people were taking pleasure in running him down. Very different.

Originally posted by G-Mo77

There was never any need to over analyse Stack's (Did I mention it was his first game

) game on Friday, it was poor form.

Nobody analysed his game until they were challenged. Again, you seem to have ignored points made above.

Originally posted by G-Mo77

What were you saying about play the ball instead of the man?

How you can possibly take a comment on the thread as a personal attack on anyone is baffling.

**Topdog** · 11-06-2009, 09:20 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Mofra

Take a look from the start of the thread then. Comments on brilliant position, attack, etc. etc. A couple of people disagreed and all of a sudden people think there's a vendetta against the kid. Is there an age limit on criticism?
.

Not that I care either way but brilliant position and attack are hardly what I would call rave reviews

**Mofra** · 11-06-2009, 09:49 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Topdog

Not that I care either way but brilliant position and attack are hardly what I would call rave reviews

Fair point, I'll concede I may have exaggerated a little.
In any sense, I think this thread is getting a bit derailed by the fact that there is some sort of unspoken rule that first gamers are beyond criticism.
I don't agree with that, but I'm not sure this thread & discussion is productive anymore.

**comrade** · 11-06-2009, 10:00 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by Mofra

Fair point, I'll concede I may have exaggerated a little.
In any sense, I think this thread is getting a bit derailed by the fact that there is some sort of unspoken rule that first gamers are beyond criticism.
I don't agree with that, but I'm not sure this thread & discussion is productive anymore.

Yeah, it’s getting a little too much like lawyers squabbling over fine print.

It wasn’t a great game, even for a debut, but he showed enough in his ability to make repeated efforts and his desire to create a contest that, that if it all clicks he can become a good player.

I’m more interested in how he’ll play when he inevitably goes back to Williamstown. Will he take what he has learnt and build upon it like Ward, or will he drop his head like I fear Grant has done?

**Twodogs** · 11-06-2009, 10:15 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I thought Gia did good!

**Mofra** · 11-06-2009, 10:24 AM

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Originally posted by comrade

I�m more interested in how he�ll play when he inevitably goes back to Williamstown. Will he take what he has learnt and build upon it like Ward, or will he drop his head like I fear Grant has done?

I'm hoping he follows a Hill path more than anything else- Hill wasn't setting the world on fire when he won his debut, but his story reads pretty well since then.

FWIW I still thought Grant showed a very clean pair of hands in his debut, even if his fitness & body aren't there yet. I'd expect him to play a few more games in the seniors next year.