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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

    Originally posted by alwaysadog
    SS I usually like your posts and I enjoy the chance to exchange counter views, but you seem to find it impossible to find one thing that Stack did, other than breathing, that was positive, and you seem in a mood to accuse him of wasting oxygen when he did that. I know your style is to be all one or the other but is it appropriate to deny any positives to a young player? Furthermore it's not like you to not encourage someone, we seem agreed to think, that the coach wants to be part of our future.
    The best thing he did all night was jump at that high ball - I thought it was actually a mark.

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

      Watched the first quarter again tonight.

      Laid a tackle on Tambling, Tambling got it away though.

      Made a good lead but Newman read it well and cut it off.

      Dropped a handball from Gia (under pressure)

      Won a loose ball and fed off a handball to Higgins that ended in a goal to Aker (via Gia).

      Bad fumble right on 1/4 time on Richmond's 50 - saved by the bell.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66182

        Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

        Originally posted by Topdog
        Westhoff is a stick figure who is unable to use his height effectively yet. I'd be willing to take the risk. Anyway who is to say that Tiller would be a better matchup for Westhoff? Tiller is what 192-3cm?
        I would drop Tiller and bring in Everitt.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66182

          Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          Watched the first quarter again tonight.

          Laid a tackle on Tambling, Tambling got it away though.

          Made a good lead but Newman read it well and cut it off.

          Dropped a handball from Gia (under pressure)

          Won a loose ball and fed off a handball to Higgins that ended in a goal to Aker (via Gia).

          Bad fumble right on 1/4 time on Richmond's 50 - saved by the bell.
          Ok SS, you made your point.

          All we are saying is its his first game, it was an ok debut and there is potential there and time will tell.
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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Ok SS, you made your point.

            All we are saying is its his first game, it was an ok debut and there is potential there and time will tell.
            It doesn't matter what his first game was like anyway, it's the next 200 I'm more interested in.



            PS. I've watched the 2nd quarter now too, would you like my play-by-play review?

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

              In a roundabout sort of way I think SS realises he was wrong (will never admit it) when he said that Stack did not do one positive thing on the night.
              Then backtracked and said The best thing he did all night was jump at that high ball - I thought it was actually a mark.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15324

                Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                PS. I've watched the 2nd quarter now too, would you like my play-by-play review?
                Yes please.

                And why stop at just a critique of Stack's game. Can you run your eye over the rest of them for us as well?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66182

                  Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                  112 responses to Stacks debut, must have been a good one
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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14870

                    Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    112 responses to Stacks debut, must have been a good one
                    By that logic, Eagleton is our greatest ever player
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                    • Scorlibo
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3075

                      Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                      What makes Stack's debut any better than Grant's? Grant was dropped the following game after winning just 8 touches, Stack did the same except he has been on the list a year longer and is not a tall.
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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        Yes please.

                        And why stop at just a critique of Stack's game. Can you run your eye over the rest of them for us as well?
                        Stack's 2nd quarter was easy because he hardly ever appears on screen. I've no idea how much of it he actually spent on the ground.

                        HB recieve (stationary), 1m HB
                        HB recieve (stationary), 1m HB


                        There you go, that was it.

                        He actually appears on screen another half dozen times but doesn't contribute anything else.

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9873

                          Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          Stack's 2nd quarter was easy because he hardly ever appears on screen. I've no idea how much of it he actually spent on the ground.

                          HB recieve (stationary), 1m HB
                          HB recieve (stationary), 1m HB


                          There you go, that was it.

                          He actually appears on screen another half dozen times but doesn't contribute anything else.
                          OK we get your point.

                          I have no idea why you are taking pleasure (Seems that way) in running down a first gamer. I'd rather a microscope thrown on some senior footballers at times. A first gamer is just an easy target. Pretty poor form SS, I expected better from you.

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            OK we get your point.

                            I have no idea why you are taking pleasure (Seems that way) in running down a first gamer. I'd rather a microscope thrown on some senior footballers at times. A first gamer is just an easy target. Pretty poor form SS, I expected better from you.
                            Dont expect better from SS, that way you wont be disappointed
                            Seriously have low expectations then you might be surprised, its worked for me following the doggies for 31 years!

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14870

                              Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                              Originally posted by G-Mo77
                              OK we get your point.

                              I have no idea why you are taking pleasure (Seems that way) in running down a first gamer. I'd rather a microscope thrown on some senior footballers at times. A first gamer is just an easy target. Pretty poor form SS, I expected better from you.
                              If you want an opinion on someone else, start a thread on someone else then.

                              I don't think having an opinion on a player who had 4 effective disposals on the night, and who will no doubt learn from the experience (and hopefully it will hasten his development) is necessarily a destructive point.

                              I don't see the point in standing around in a apoplexic fit and declaring a great debut by a kid who clearly is in the developmental stage of his career and has some areas of his football to work on. If Stack turns into a gun impact player and forces his way into our best 22 in 2010, will people still be upset by a negative review of his first game?

                              FWIW I didn't think Hill's debut was very good either, I also think he's in our best 22 right now and will continue to improve next year. An opinion on someone's first game doesn't mean they will be denegraded for the rest of their career (although Gia & Eagle might argue with me on the last point).
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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7578

                                Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

                                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                                OK we get your point.

                                I have no idea why you are taking pleasure (Seems that way) in running down a first gamer. I'd rather a microscope thrown on some senior footballers at times. A first gamer is just an easy target. Pretty poor form SS, I expected better from you.
                                I don't think you do, get the point, that is.

                                Sockeye's criticisms as I see it were more at some of the earlier posters portrayed Stack's debut into something it was not, rather than the lad himself.

                                Let's all take the rose coloured glasses off for just a moment. It was fantastic that we had a youngster debut, but it was not by any stretch of the imagination a great game by Brennan Stack, most debuts aren't.

                                He'll be better for the experience, hopefully nowhere near as nervous & will show the freakish skills he often shows at training, but not so much on game day.
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