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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #61
    Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

    Gibson for a second round pick is the obvious conclusion. Waste of time talking about trading Cross cos' it aint happening

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10087

      #62
      Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

      Originally posted by Remi Moses
      Waste of time talking about trading Cross cos' it aint happening
      Neither did the Y2K Bug but that got some press.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15207

        #63
        Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

        Originally posted by Mofra
        No, that'd be 0%
        Yep glass half full, half empty. lol
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • macca
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 2352

          #64
          Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

          Originally posted by EJ Smith
          There is a fundamental difference between Ray, who left of his own accord or his Manager's in order to better himself and Cross who we are talking about discarding in favour of a lottery to replace him with a draft pick.

          This doesn't even satisfy the theory of trading for need.
          Ray is a spud who has a big engine. On the weekend seeing him Saint colours and doing turnonvers, 3 I remembers so glaring: 1 handpass backwards to the oppostion fwd line, missing the target, a kick across the ground when in centre square missing target by 20 meters, and handballing to player who got crunched. His clangers are not so damaging in a hard running and big bodied team. Ray is a dud, and I am glad we let him go. He will be overtaken next year by guys like mcqualter, geary( when he plays in midfield) and clinton jones. So I wonder if he will play 50 more games ?

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          • macca
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 2352

            #65
            Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

            its not a question if crossy drops of his perch, but how many quality games can we get out of him ? If we get another 100 games off him, where he contributes, he is worth more than 1 first round pick. Drafting is not an exact science, and we have had terrible, terrible luck with our first round picks apart from cooney in the last couple of years.

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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7578

              #66
              Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

              Originally posted by macca
              terrible luck with our first round picks apart from cooney in the last couple of years.
              That number 7 fellow goes allright too.
              [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #67
                Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                Originally posted by macca
                Ray is a spud who has a big engine. On the weekend seeing him Saint colours and doing turnonvers, 3 I remembers so glaring: 1 handpass backwards to the oppostion fwd line, missing the target, a kick across the ground when in centre square missing target by 20 meters, and handballing to player who got crunched. His clangers are not so damaging in a hard running and big bodied team. Ray is a dud, and I am glad we let him go. He will be overtaken next year by guys like mcqualter, geary( when he plays in midfield) and clinton jones. So I wonder if he will play 50 more games ?
                At year ending, Ray might have the last laugh. Stkilda excellent chance for the flag.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #68
                  Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                  How would everyone feel, if the we traded Cross for Gibson, straight swap?

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17921

                    #69
                    Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                    Originally posted by T-BONE
                    How would everyone feel, if the we traded Cross for Gibson, straight swap?
                    Cold and alone.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15321

                      #70
                      Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                      Originally posted by T-BONE
                      How would everyone feel, if the we traded Cross for Gibson, straight swap?
                      I would throw up.

                      Why would we chase/ want a mid 20's mid-sized defender who ain't that good?

                      If (big if) were to trade someone of Crossy's calibre I would want atleast a top 10 pick or a developing player under the age of 20 who would add something different to our side (pace, good kick, etc..) and would be a 200 game player.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #71
                        Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                        I would hate to see Crossy go. So stop throwing his name around for trade.
                        He is not going anywhere.

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                        • Desipura
                          WOOF Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 4344

                          #72
                          Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          If we’re going trade crazy, I’d chuck Hahn’s name up as well for the exact reason you posted.
                          Hahn would generate very little interest if we offered him up for trade.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #73
                            Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            No, that'd be 0%
                            Actually it would be undefined.

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 17921

                              #74
                              Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                              Originally posted by Desipura
                              Hahn would generate very little interest if we offered him up for trade.
                              You never know unless you try - another club might think he's just what they need.

                              Personally, I think he's run his race at the Dogs.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7578

                                #75
                                Re: I think trading is the work of the devil, but just for the sake of it ...

                                Good thread Jim with plenty of thought provoking responses. Well done & I have to admit, it shocked me, given you man love for Crossy.
                                [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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