Demonstrative Abuse?

**bulldogtragic** · 27-09-2009, 08:57 AM

Re: Demonstrative Abuse?

Originally posted by The Coon Dog

How many free kicks have the umpires missed that should have been paid & how many have they paid that weren't?

If you supported either team I reckon you'd be going off your nut!

Milne, marks & gets a tap in the guts off Ling & goes to ground holding his head, please someone, anyone, give the filthy little bastard something to hold his head about!

St Kilda were diving all day. Obviously McInerney has given a 'green light' to this behaviour and until it's stamped out, it will be a stain on our game.

And the decision was wrong. If it's so bad send him to the tribunal, give him weeks and fines. Don't gift another goal to the Saints. Although its counter intiuative, it really seemed to be rigged for two weeks with how many decisoons they had go their way and goals gifted to them in low scoring matches. The AFL may have to get he 'Masterchef' producers in next year to make sure of it.

**Go_Dogs** · 27-09-2009, 10:23 AM

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It was a bs free, but it made up for the Hawkins kick which brushed against the post at the other end and was called a goal.

**bulldogtragic** · 27-09-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Griffen#16

It was a bs free, but it made up for the Hawkins kick which brushed against the post at the other end and was called a goal.

Two wrongs don't make a right though. Just bad umpiring all round.

**LostDoggy** · 27-09-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by bulldogtragic

Two wrongs don't make a right though. Just bad umpiring all round.

It makes me feel terrible. At least they got some sort of square up, we got diddly squat last week for a number of poor decisions.

**Go_Dogs** · 27-09-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by bulldogtragic

Two wrongs don't make a right though. Just bad umpiring all round.

No doubt, 2 huge stuff ups, but I don't think either impacted on the end result.

I've been harping on about it for quite a few years now, but professional umpiring is the only way to go.

**The Pie Man** · 27-09-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by rohanj

The Dasher 'demonstrative abuse' decision was another take on over umpiring gone mad in the AFL.

The holding the ball / prior opportunity decision is also totally off the scale in being reasonable. A slight tug on a jumper when in possession that doesn't stop momentum or making a play for the ball and getting pinged by a leacher should be let go.

How bad was the Scarlett holding the ball? Possibly the worst call of the day

**KT31** · 27-09-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Griffen#16

It was a bs free, but it made up for the Hawkins kick which brushed against the post at the other end and was called a goal.

Like Big Bad Bulldog Bazza brushed against Staker.

**mjp** · 27-09-2009, 12:20 PM

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Milburn has a career long reputation for going off at umpires and he really was carrying on a treat...The penalty was excessive but this is the sort of thing that they have been paying all year. To me it was very unlike the Lake/Riewoldt one from a week previous - that happens 10 times every game and is never paid (but I still wish Lake didn't do it).

There were a few tough calls in the Grand Final but nothing like the missed free kicks to Ward and Hudson from the week before, and none as egregious as the Lake on Riewoldt one.

The worst decision was the poster by Hawkins - terrible by the goal umpire.

As for all the negativity about the Saints, they are long-time battlers (much like us) with an even more tragic history...most wooden spoons etc. Surely if anyone can show empathy to their fans it should be us - why are so many people keen to run their noses in it?

**Bornadog** · 27-09-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by mjp

Milburn has a career long reputation for going off at umpires and he really was carrying on a treat...The penalty was excessive but this is the sort of thing that they have been paying all year. To me it was very unlike the Lake/Riewoldt one from a week previous - that happens 10 times every game and is never paid (but I still wish Lake didn't do it).

There were a few tough calls in the Grand Final but nothing like the missed free kicks to Ward and Hudson from the week before, and none as egregious as the Lake on Riewoldt one.

The worst decision was the poster by Hawkins - terrible by the goal umpire.

As for all the negativity about the Saints, they are long-time battlers (much like us) with an even more tragic history...most wooden spoons etc. Surely if anyone can show empathy to their fans it should be us - why are so many people keen to run their noses in it?

I guess we don't want to be the only club in Melbourne with one premiership.

**comrade** · 27-09-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by bornadog

I guess we don't want to be the only club in Melbourne with one premiership.

That coupled with the arm chair ride they got last week, though I think it's ridiculous to rub their face in it.

Just enjoy it, quietly

**soupman** · 27-09-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by mjp

As for all the negativity about the Saints, they are long-time battlers (much like us) with an even more tragic history...most wooden spoons etc. Surely if anyone can show empathy to their fans it should be us - why are so many people keen to run their noses in it?

It's weird, I was going for them until 15 minutes in, when their playing up of the slightest contact pissed me off no end and I swapped to Geelong.

I do sympathise with them, because I know what it feels like, but in my experience many of their supporters are more of the Hawthorn type (arrogant, loud bandwagoners), and for that it makes it a bit harder to want them to win. Having some of my most hated players in the league in Milne and Schneider though also doesn't help, and Dawson makes himself a target. With that Hawkins intercept in the goalsquare I called that before it happened.

But the acting yesterday was atrocious, especially when Schneider got brushed on his back and dropped to his knees holding it.

**LostDoggy** · 27-09-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by The Coon Dog

How many free kicks have the umpires missed that should have been paid & how many have they paid that weren't?

If you supported either team I reckon you'd be going off your nut!

Milne, marks & gets a tap in the guts off Ling & goes to ground holding his head, please someone, anyone, give the filthy little bastard something to hold his head about!

ROFL Right on CD, I hate that guy, I call him "ratboy", & was more than pleased when he blew three chances in the 3rd quarter...

**Max469** · 27-09-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by comrade

That coupled with the arm chair ride they got last week, though I think it's ridiculous to rub their face in it.

Just enjoy it, quietly.

I got hammered all weak by both St Kilda and other supporters who like to knock our boys about :

If you had a forward - you would have won

If only you had kicked straight.

Well Hello St Kilda - welcome to our world.

Their supporters are whiny, sooky, rude, arrogant.

Yes, do feel the empathy in regards to the longevity of their time between flags, but sorry, their supporters have given me the shites for over 25 years.

Feel for some of the players - it would be devastating for them - multiply what our boys and what we were feeling last week by 10 - it is the Big One after all.

Feel for some very good friends of mine as they love their boys as much as we do ours.

Do they deserve the crap that our supporters have given them on the other board - definitely not.

**LostDoggy** · 27-09-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by mjp

Surely if anyone can show empathy to their fans it should be us - why are so many people keen to run their noses in it?

I think its a number of things,

Grant Thomas is a big one, a lot of dogs supporters have a long memories. His comments in the media over the last couple of years have been very negative about our club. One of the guys I work with who is a doggies man says this is the main reason why he wanted Geelong to win.

Also, the Prelim final & the controverstial decisions meant that a lot of our supporters felt robbed. We came close to a GF again, but to have umpiring decisions made against us on the strength of some dubious play acting, cuts pretty deep. It was only a week ago and there are probably a lot of us who are still fuming about that.

But, back on topic, Milburn was wrong in claiming the touch, but no way should it have been another shot at goal. Does anyone know if he was warned to stop arguing before the free was given? If he was given a warning then i would have no problem with the free.

**KT31** · 27-09-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mjp
Surely if anyone can show empathy to their fans it should be us - why are so many people keen to run their noses in it?

The truth of it all is .

It would be lonely being at the bottom with only one Premiership.

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