Fev up for trade

[Bornadog]

Re: Fev up for trade

No, not necessarily. Give me a 50-70 goal forward and 3+ players who can kick 30 odd goals. I would take that any day over a one dimensional forward.

Fair point, however, Hall has only kicked 40 goals per year for the last three.

I guess, with our midfield he could easily kick 70.

[Desipura]

Re: Fev up for trade

Which means we can afford him.

However, the point is do we want him?

Not for a 1st round pick

[Bornadog]

Re: Fev up for trade

Not for a 1st round pick

Just for a minute, forget the guy is a dickhead and probably a disruptive influence on the younger guys. Are you telling me that he is not worth a 1st round pick?

[Desipura]

Re: Fev up for trade

Just for a minute, forget the guy is a dickhead and probably a disruptive influence on the younger guys. Are you telling me that he is not worth a 1st round pick?

I cant forget he is a dickhead and disruptive influence on the younger guys, this has to come into play when you are considering getting rid of a 1st round draft pick for him, in a very thin draft.
If we got a late 1st round pick for Everitt, I may consider, it could potentially disrupt the whole playing group.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

Just to play the Devil's Advocate, there have been comments that Hall is preferred to Fevola because Hall's misdemeanors occur on the field whilst Fevola's occur off the field.

I find the logic in this difficult to follow.

Frankly, I wouldn't care too much if Fevola as our player, pissed on every Police Station in the state as long as he does the right thing on the field.

Hall, on the other hand, lost a game for the Swans through his petulance over an umpiring decision incurring three 50 metre penalties and resulting in the winning goal to the opposition.

That would be just great in the dying minutes of a Preliminary Final

Fevola has not achieved that...............yet!

[Doc26]

Re: Fev up for trade

All Australian Full Forward with 4+ years left. On football ability is certainly worth a first round pick but what weight does his disruptive influence have ? The price coupled with the 'all about me' attitude is not worth it as other clubs are saying by appearing to shy away from him. Why put at risk the fabric of our great club.

[Mofra]

Re: Fev up for trade

All Australian Full Forward with 4+ years left. On football ability is certainly worth a first round pick but what weight does his disruptive influence have ? The price coupled with the 'all about me' attitude is not worth it as other clubs are saying by appearing to shy away from him. Why put at risk the fabric of our great club.

It would also increase the risk of losing an existing player as Fev would strain the salary cap - we are trying to jig it as it is.

[Bornadog]

Re: Fev up for trade

Just to play the Devil's Advocate, there have been comments that Hall is preferred to Fevola because Hall's misdemeanors occur on the field whilst Fevola's occur off the field.

I find the logic in this difficult to follow.

Frankly, I wouldn't care too much if Fevola as our player, pissed on every Police Station in the state as long as he does the right thing on the field.

Hall, on the other hand, lost a game for the Swans through his petulance over an umpiring decision incurring three 50 metre penalties and resulting in the winning goal to the opposition.

That would be just great in the dying minutes of a Preliminary Final

Fevola has not achieved that...............yet!

That has longer term ramifications to the image of the club.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

That has longer term ramifications to the image of the club.

I am comparing the two scenarios.

You would be happier with a player whose actions result in losing a game?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

That has longer term ramifications to the image of the club.

This is a funny one. Some teams seem to care more about this than others -- and the care factor is usually inversely proportional to their on-field success ie. the dickhead clubs (Carlton, West Coast, Hawthorn etc.) seem to care more about winning than culture.

The notable exceptions (and thank God for them) are Geelong and Sydney (and Brisbane before them). If there is a lesson in here, it seems that culture may not determine if you do get to the top, but it certainly determines how long you stay there.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

I am comparing the two scenarios.

You would be happier with a player whose actions result in losing a game?

Johnno's missed a few shots after the siren.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Fev up for trade

Just to play the Devil's Advocate, there have been comments that Hall is preferred to Fevola because Hall's misdemeanors occur on the field whilst Fevola's occur off the field.

I find the logic in this difficult to follow.

Frankly, I wouldn't care too much if Fevola as our player, pissed on every Police Station in the state as long as he does the right thing on the field.

Hall, on the other hand, lost a game for the Swans through his petulance over an umpiring decision incurring three 50 metre penalties and resulting in the winning goal to the opposition.

That would be just great in the dying minutes of a Preliminary Final

Fevola has not achieved that...............yet!

I'm not sure I agree with you here.


Fev does have a history on-field of throwing hissy fits and giving away 50m penalties.

Was Hall's 3 x 50m penalty issue any worse than Fev standing in the goalsquare while his immediate opponent strolled down the wing having 5 bounces - twice in a quarter?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

I'm not sure I agree with you here.


Fev does have a history on-field of throwing hissy fits and giving away 50m penalties.

Was Hall's 3 x 50m penalty issue any worse than Fev standing in the goalsquare while his immediate opponent strolled down the wing having 5 bounces - twice in a quarter?

Agree, no different but slightly off the question I raised.

On-field or off-field indiscretions?

I am querying the view (offered by some) that Hall is preferred to Fevola because Halls indiscretions are on-field.

Furthermore, how does Hall pass the no-dickheads policy?

[Bornadog]

Re: Fev up for trade

Agree, no different but slightly off the question I raised.

On-field or off-field indiscretions?

I am querying the view (offered by some) that Hall is preferred to Fevola because Halls indiscretions are on-field.

Furthermore, how does Hall pass the no-dickheads policy?

Forgetting all the dickhead issues, Fev is a better footballer than Hall, right at this minute.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Fev up for trade

Fevola is a big dickhead, always has been.

If he joined the Dogs, I wouldn't be as passionate next season.