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Re: Fev up for trade
Don't forget Fev mistakes on the field aswell. I think he is the only player going around that gets 100m penalties against him.
Dogs not keen on Fev
BREAKING NEWS: THE Western Bulldogs will not pursue a trade deal for dumped Carlton spearhead Brendan Fevola.
Dogs' coach Rodney Eade said the club had instead made a commitment to Sydney discard Barry Hall and was highly confident of securing the key forward, either by trade or through the draft.
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Eade was adamant Andrejs Everitt was a ''required player'' and said no clubs had approached the Dogs about a trade for the talented utility.Comment
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Re: Fev up for trade
So let's cut to the quick - they both fail the "No Dickheads's Policy" badly.
Whether one is worse than the other is not the issue - they both fail.
What concerns me is some of you are stridently critical of Fevola because of his indiscretions (I have the same view by the way) yet you turn a blind eye to Hall's indiscretions and the potential he brings to damage the fabric of the club.
You can't have it one way with one and not the other because they are both in the same boat.
Where do I stand? I have done a 180 on this. I would have either and I don't give a toss about their behaviour as long as they contribute to a Premiership because I've had a gutful of waiting for one.
But I'm not going to be critical of one and welcoming of the other.Comment
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Re: Fev up for trade
how long ago? Fev did 1 this year against Sydney if I recall correctly.Comment
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Re: Fev up for trade
I agree. They're both dickheads.
I do see Hall as a better option though, simply because taking personalities out of the equation:
Hall: Provides physical prescence in our forwardline, costs $300,000 a year, is only needed for 2 years, leads up the ground helping out at CHF too, knows how to work with other marking targets (O'Loughlin, O'Keefe (who is pretty much Murphy)), will be acquired with around about a 3rd round pick
Fevola: Provides a big marking key forward, costs $700,000 a year, will be around for 4+ years, dominates in the forward 50, used to being the sole target with crumbers (Betts, Garlett), will be acquired with in excess of a 1st round pick and very rpomising player
I see Hall as being better value for money for our needs and structure, despite Fevola currently being the better player.
Fevola:I should leave it alone but you're not rightComment
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Re: Fev up for trade
The 'No Dickheads Policy' was made famous by Sydney, ironically the team Hall is coming from.
I think the fact that he survived and thrived as long as he did in that environment (even made captain!) suggests that while he's not perfect (who is?) he's certainly been able to curb his more destructive tendencies, and even been a strong and significant off-and-on field contributor. He's also won a premiership with a team that was built on character and culture, so he has been a strong, positive influence on a successful era.
Fev, on the other hand, has been nothing but a unreformed dickhead from day one, on AND off the field. The only thing that has kept him anywhere near a team list is his outrageous talent; even marginally less talented, and he would have been out on his arse a long time ago. Also, Carlton has won nothing in his time there, and one could argue that he has been a negative influence on the playing group, and certainly hasn't contributed to any type of success.
So, while I take your point, EJ, that there seems to be a bit of a double standard here, I can somewhat understand it, as there IS a distinction. I mean, Aker's a bit of a nut, but he's a consummate professional and team man. Hall is also clearly very professional in his approach to the game (still uber-fit) but has an anger management issue.
Fev is both unprofessional (showed up out of shape to pre-season training the last two years) and stupid, AND he's unapologetic (regardless of what he says, if you keep stuffing up year after year how apologetic can you be). No contest character-wise.
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ps. Having said that, I've also floated the possibility of Fev coming over, so I'm not seeing as great a distinction as some seem to be making.Comment
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Re: Fev up for trade
I think Barry Hall would be a better fit for the Bulldogs, and besides - he's better looking than Fev!!
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Re: Fev up for trade
Not really, once Sydney started to win games and became successful he passed the DH test with flying colours. Once they started going downhill, he failed quite miserably. The cure is to win games and be successful then he won't be so angry. There's no cure for Fevola.Comment
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Re: Fev up for trade
The most important differences between Fev and Barry imo are:
* Fev demands that the ball is directed to him. Fev is the main man, the go-to guy, the gun forward who will kick a lot of goals if the team structures up to play that way. Fev doesn't make others around him better. Fev demands that others do as he requires to make Fev better. Fev is the one-man show and the anti-team player. Carlton are poorer for having Fev in the team the way he plays with them.
* Barry Hall works very hard at all of the team orientated facets of the game. Hall chases, tackles, puts on blocks for team-mates and is renowned for being a team player. This means Hall is unpredictable to opponents - too dangerous to leave unattended; prepared to sacrifice to give the team the range of attacking options it needs; prepared to dig deep and take the game on and drag the team over the line if that's what is needed. Hall makes others around him better players and makes them walk taller.
No contest for mine - Barry Hall by a mile and much, much better value for money.Comment
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