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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6686

    Re: H.sun supercoach

    Originally posted by Lantern
    In my personal Supercoach armageddon, where nearly all my premiums forgot to score, I ended up with a score that barely scraped over 2000 (thanks to some rookies and fallen premiums coming to the fore), so I've just dropped below 3000th for the first week this season, hopefully it's not a sign of things to come.

    I don't think it will be though -- my team looks complete bar injuries, I have a healthy bank of trades and a bit of money left, and some of the fallen premiums i've traded in have just started to score big consistently, so I'm just waiting for the big scores to roll in from here on in for a big second half of the season!
    The timing of your armageddon could not have come at a better time. I've chalked up my second win of the year and am not ruling out finals.

    Just need to hang on to my trades...

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: H.sun supercoach

      Originally posted by westdog54
      The timing of your armageddon could not have come at a better time. I've chalked up my second win of the year and am not ruling out finals.

      Just need to hang on to my trades...
      Haha .. saw that. Good play, and good call on your choice for captain! Took a punt, and paid off handsomely.

      I'm not really aiming for a win in the private leagues this year, but my timing hasn't been great there, sitting in mid-table despite being top or second in total points scored. Looks like my opponents choose the week they are playing me to pull a big score out of their butts!

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        Re: H.sun supercoach

        Originally posted by Lantern
        Haha .. saw that. Good play, and good call on your choice for captain! Took a punt, and paid off handsomely.

        I'm not really aiming for a win in the private leagues this year, but my timing hasn't been great there, sitting in mid-table despite being top or second in total points scored. Looks like my opponents choose the week they are playing me to pull a big score out of their butts!
        I had a feeling Gazza wouldn't be at his best against Collingwood, that they'd tighten up on him. It was a 3 way toss-up between Hodge, Lake and Goddard, as to who'd run riot the most. Not unhappy with my decision but was bleeding on Saturday arvo that I'd gone with Goddard.

        Still staggered at how well my midfield and ruck division went. Got me over the line. Gary Rohan was a brilliant emergency as well. Everything just went right.

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          Re: H.sun supercoach

          What should I do about Kennelly, Brown and Rioli?

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15472

            Re: H.sun supercoach

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            What should I do about Kennelly, Brown and Rioli?
            Depends on your trade/ cash situation.

            Personally I would be getting rid of one of Rioli/ Brown (probably Rioli) and if I had cover for Kennelly I would keep him and put him on the bench for 2 or 3 games.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14972

              Re: H.sun supercoach

              I have Hooker & Kennelly so I'll have to trade out one.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: H.sun supercoach

                I'm more concerned about Bradshaw. Don't know if I can cover him for 3 weeks. Should I try to leave him on the bench?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: H.sun supercoach

                  Originally posted by nawrocki
                  I'm more concerned about Bradshaw. Don't know if I can cover him for 3 weeks. Should I try to leave him on the bench?
                  He could be out for a month, maybe more. Id look at offloading him for someone like Goodes, Byrnes, Riewoltd, Monfries all averaging around the same & cheaper.

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    Re: H.sun supercoach

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Depends on your trade/ cash situation.

                    Personally I would be getting rid of one of Rioli/ Brown (probably Rioli) and if I had cover for Kennelly I would keep him and put him on the bench for 2 or 3 games.
                    I'm getting a bit low on trades which is a worry.

                    I've got Schmidt on the bench so I can afford to sit Kennelly there if I need to, but I was considering using Kennelly to cash myself up to upgrade Rioli or Gumbleton to Goodes leaving $250K to use on upgrades as I go.

                    I could also trade out both Rioli and Gumbleton (bench player) for Goodes and a $100K rookie.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5844

                      Re: H.sun supercoach

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      I'm getting a bit low on trades which is a worry.

                      I've got Schmidt on the bench so I can afford to sit Kennelly there if I need to, but I was considering using Kennelly to cash myself up to upgrade Rioli or Gumbleton to Goodes leaving $250K to use on upgrades as I go.

                      I could also trade out both Rioli and Gumbleton (bench player) for Goodes and a $100K rookie.
                      I've been thinking about using an injury trade disguised as an upgrade on Kennelly > Gilbee. One thing to keep in mind is that you can slice a week off the time they will be out for with the mid season break
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                      Formerly gogriff

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        Re: H.sun supercoach

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        I've been thinking about using an injury trade disguised as an upgrade on Kennelly > Gilbee. One thing to keep in mind is that you can slice a week off the time they will be out for with the mid season break
                        What's an injury trade?

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14337

                          Re: H.sun supercoach

                          My god I have been hit hard this week, no Scully, Trengove or Scarlett, struggling to get a side with my interchange as it is.
                          Have Moles, Ladson and Roughy (ours) on my list as it is.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5844

                            Re: H.sun supercoach

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            What's an injury trade?
                            Sorry SS I will explain

                            Of the 20 trades you get to use through the year, most should be used to trade bench players that have increased in price to cheaper players (downgrade), then use the money made to trade players on the field to more expensive players that are scoring more (upgrade). Using trades in this way improves the scoring potential of your team.

                            However trades can and in some cases should be used for other purposes. Corrective or Sideways trades are when you have made a poor selection, and thus want to use a trade to bring in another player instead. It is easy to fall into the trap of using all of your trades this way, which is not likely to be as effective as using them to do downgrades & upgrades.

                            Some coaches reserve a couple of corrective trades for the week preceding round 3 as player performance is hard to predict pre-season, and the first two rounds will reveal some obvious errors in your team selections which you can correct before player salaries start changing after round 3

                            Injury trades are used to substitute players who get injured for other players. Whether or not you trade an injured player depends on how many points you think their replacement could score, whether you were going to downgrade/upgrade them anyway, how many points you think one of your bench players could score in their place (if they are selected to play) and how many weeks the injury will last for.

                            Riewoldt's injury was an easy choice, bringing in someone worth 600k for 12+ weeks will score a lot more than players on the bench in that period. Kennelly's injury is more marginal - he is not worth as much and did not average as many points, therefore the scores of a similarly priced replacement may not be much more than the scores of players on your bench. He is also not out for as long.

                            You need to keep a certain number of trades aside to be able to cover injuries, as particularly late in the season if you run out of trades you could also run out of scoring players as they are injured or not selected. You don't want to put too many aside however, as you still need to upgrade your team to improve your scores

                            My comment 'using an injury trade disguised as an upgrade' meant I am considering using one of my allocated injury trades on Kennelly, even though there will probably be worse injuries to higher scoring players to cover, as the trade could also include upgrading him to Gilbee. IMO, neither the injury trade nor upgrade trade are worthwhile alone, as Kennelly is not out that long and the expected scoring difference between Kennelly and Gilbee is not very high, but when considering the extra scoring of Gilbee compared to bench players whilst Kennelly is injured in addition to the extra scoring of Gilbee compared to Kennelly when he gets back, then perhaps it is worthwhile using a trade to bring Gilbee in
                            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                            Formerly gogriff

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                            • cinder
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 956

                              Re: H.sun supercoach

                              Does anyone know what's going on with Melbourne's Matthew Bate?

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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                Re: H.sun supercoach

                                Originally posted by gogriff
                                Sorry SS I will explain...
                                I thought you were referring to a new rule I didn't know about. I thought they had brought in a Long Term Injury List and we could do an extra trade or two if someone was out for say 8 weeks or more.

                                They should do that.

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