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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    Everitt

    Rightly or wrongly I have recently taken exception to the treatment of Everitt and his inability to get a game ahead of others.

    I am not happy with the precedent we have set with selection and I think we are sending a poor message to our younger players, this message goes deeper than our week to week performances, it affects the fabric and culture of our club.

    It appears the coaches are happy to show faith in our experienced players despite continually performing poorly yet our younger players i.e. Everitt are not given the same luxuries. It is hard to argue that he doesn't have the runs on the board when he is not given the opportunity, he was good before his injury and others have been poor since but for some reason he is on the outer.

    How can our young players flourish without opportunity and more importantly without the confidence and support shown in them? Yet after the game Eade will complain the players are afraid of making mistakes and not being adventurous, perhaps the same philosophy should be adopted at selection.

    I look at Sam Power and can see that somewhere between his drafting and trading he never fulfilled his potential, as we're all aware there are many factors that contribute to a players development that range from the club, the player as well as the environment. My biggest concern is that I believe one of the main reasons Sam Power never flourished is because he suffered from a fear of failure. He was a player who continually took the safe option and never took the risk and as such never reaped the rewards. In the past few weeks I have been hearing the same message used by our very coach when describing the teams overall performances. Unfortunately at the moment I look at Everitt and fear that he is slowly following the same path as Sam Power, a player who could play all positions but couldn't establish himself in any, a player who the coaches rated but struggled to identify how to utilise, a player who lacked in confidence due to the lack of confidence shown in him.

    As Bulldog supporters we cry out for loyalty and despise the likes of Nathan Brown for leaving for a better offer and fear Harbrow leaving for GC yet as a club do we really show loyalty to players once they become surplus to our needs? I completely understand why someone like Everitt would look elsewhere for better career opportunities, at the end of the day this is his livelihood and he needs to look after his own best interests. As a club we did not want to lose Everitt last year out of fear of what he could become elsewhere yet we are happy to let him rot away in the reserves, in fact sometimes I think they would be happier that he stayed with us and never made it instead of being traded and becoming a genuine success elsewhere.

    For better or worse I thought I would throw my thoughts out there to be scrutinised for the sake of conversation and argument. What are your thoughts on Everitt? Are we not utilising him correctly? Where should he be playing?

    I would love to hear your thoughts on this topic as I value the opinion of others on this forum highly. Go Dogs!
  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Everitt

    IMO Evs value to this team is unsurpassed by any other youngster around his age. This is due to the fact that i believe he can play/has the ability to play at both ends of the ground as a third best defender option and the equivalent forward option. He can also spend time through the wings, and we've seen him pinch hit the ruck before.

    He may still get a game this week so it may be jumping the gun a little Swoop, but i feel your frustration with the messages Eade conveys after a game, and then those sent out when the teams are finalised the following week.

    I, and most others, understand that you can't bring in , for example, a Sam Reid to play a Barry Hall role. When you have a player that obviously has the ability to change positions, and give a reasonable account of himself in those positions, and he's not given a game when ability and form would suggest otherwise, it sends a message that 'favouritism' may be a factor - the Ricky Ponting syndrome.

    We've seen Hahn lose form, Stack drop off in the last couple of weeks, Addison have little impact, the game move past Eagleton yet no changes have been forthcoming for the younger brigade.

    Maybe there's something he has done. maybe there's a reason he's being ignored. Here's hoping he gets a game this week because playing the ageing and underperforming week-in, week-out with seemingly less than a slap on the wrist gets to the younger playing group outside the seniors, as well as the supporters.
    Last edited by LostDoggy; 11-06-2010, 01:20 PM.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Everitt

      I cant believe the guy doesn't play more regularly, he is more talented than at least 6 guys out there at the moment. He should be in the team, our team is weaker without him, we will lose him and nearly did last year. He is more flexible than the majority of our team. How does this cr@p happen when we have people struggling and the team is losing and we have injuries. Everitt should have been part of our 2010 premiership plans from season start.

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      • Sockeye Salmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6365

        #4
        Re: Everitt

        I understand why they think like they do. I don't know where he would play either. A tall who can't play tall and a runner who can't run. I think he's a bit like an all-rounder who averages 28 with the bat and 32 with the ball.

        Having said that, I can't think of an area where he doesn't offer more than Mitch Hahn.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Everitt

          here here

          We need Everitt in the team, not playing for Williamstown, especially when there are players in the team who should have been dropped some time ago

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          • Doc26
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2009
            • 3087

            #6
            Re: Everitt

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            I understand why they think like they do. I don't know where he would play either. A tall who can't play tall and a runner who can't run. I think he's a bit like an all-rounder who averages 28 with the bat and 32 with the ball.

            Having said that, I can't think of an area where he doesn't offer more than Mitch Hahn.
            That would be very close to Michael Johnson's test average and hasn't stopped him holding down a place in the eleven.

            Dre must be a better option than persevering with Eagleton and Mitch who are at best now flat trackers. If we were to consecutively play four top teams pre finals, as we may need to assuming we make the 8, these two would get shown up, unfortunately we don't which only masks the problem.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14954

              #7
              Re: Everitt

              I can understand the "Jack of all trades, master of none" perception of Skinny, but I don't recall him having an extended run forward at any stage so I'm not sure we can say that with total certainty.

              I would love to have him running long leads, even if it meant he's just creating space behind him for a Hall or Grant to lead into. If he gets the ball high up the ground, his disposal is very good so is likely to hurt teams with the inside 50s.

              He will force an opposition tall to take him and is flexible enough to provide a plan B when things aren't going our way. In addition, I think we will see a trend towards tall midfielders in coming years, and he could provide a run with option against the 6 foot 3+ mids that will start creeping into the game.
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Everitt

                I feel this does not just apply to Everitt. It's been like this with Eade the whole time. The only thing is its not so obvious when your going OK. However when the teams is poor and certain players like Hanh can't do the job any more it makes it very frustrating. The fact is Grant is doing more than Stack, Hanh, Gia and Eagleton. His attack on the Ball is better and with his athleticism he creates opportunities that older players just can't do any more. Lets put some of the next breed in and give them long enough to get use to the pace and if form does not warrant then drop them. Now if Stack plays this week we cannot argue that Eade does not show faith. The simple point is Eade plays favorites.

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                • BulldogBelle
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5284

                  #9
                  Re: Everitt

                  I agree entirely with the sentiments expressed by Swoop regarding Everitt.

                  Surely he has to get a gig before Addison-dud and Stack-dud.

                  Everitt appears to have great potential.

                  I would love to hear Eade's reason why Everitt doesn't get a game as often as we think that he should. What is going on? Probably just dumb-ass coach Eade.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #10
                    Re: Everitt

                    Fair and reasonable until Sam Power entered the discussion. Sam got another chance at North and just didn't cut the mustard,poor kick poor decision maker who had plenty of chances at both clubs.Love to see Everitt and Wood get an extended run in the side.

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #11
                      Re: Everitt

                      Originally posted by James Cuming
                      I agree entirely with the sentiments expressed by Swoop regarding Everitt.

                      Surely he has to get a gig before Addison-dud and Stack-dud.

                      Everitt appears to have great potential.

                      I would love to hear Eade's reason why Everitt doesn't get a game as often as we think that he should. What is going on? Probably just dumb-ass coach Eade.
                      Little bit harsh on Rocket,but I think he is showing a little to much loyality to out of sorts
                      experienced players

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66727

                        #12
                        Re: Everitt

                        Originally posted by Asylum Ward
                        I feel this does not just apply to Everitt. It's been like this with Eade the whole time. The only thing is its not so obvious when your going OK. However when the teams is poor and certain players like Hanh can't do the job any more it makes it very frustrating. The fact is Grant is doing more than Stack, Hanh, Gia and Eagleton. His attack on the Ball is better and with his athleticism he creates opportunities that older players just can't do any more. Lets put some of the next breed in and give them long enough to get use to the pace and if form does not warrant then drop them. Now if Stack plays this week we cannot argue that Eade does not show faith. The simple point is Eade plays favorites.
                        Sorry, can't believe a MC would do this. There is so much at stake.

                        I really would like to see Everitt play forward, around the wing to HFF area and eventually even the CHF role. He is not a backman as can be seen from past performances. I thought he was playing well earlier this year until he was injured. Hopefully he plays this weekend.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Everitt

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          I can understand the "Jack of all trades, master of none" perception of Skinny, but I don't recall him having an extended run forward at any stage so I'm not sure we can say that with total certainty.

                          I would love to have him running long leads, even if it meant he's just creating space behind him for a Hall or Grant to lead into. If he gets the ball high up the ground, his disposal is very good so is likely to hurt teams with the inside 50s.

                          He will force an opposition tall to take him and is flexible enough to provide a plan B when things aren't going our way. In addition, I think we will see a trend towards tall midfielders in coming years, and he could provide a run with option against the 6 foot 3+ mids that will start creeping into the game.
                          TBH i don't think he's had an extended run in any position. IIRC he played across CHF, or as a floating forward in his first few games circa mid 2007.

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                          • The Pie Man
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2008
                            • 3497

                            #14
                            Re: Everitt

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            I understand why they think like they do. I don't know where he would play either. A tall who can't play tall and a runner who can't run. I think he's a bit like an all-rounder who averages 28 with the bat and 32 with the ball.

                            Having said that, I can't think of an area where he doesn't offer more than Mitch Hahn.
                            If ever there was a time to find out, surely it was Sunday. He may still play forward if he makes the bench later tonight, but with Mitch named CHF I find that unlikely.
                            Last edited by GVGjr; 12-06-2010, 10:07 PM. Reason: Tring to fix the quote thing, not successful - Fixed GVG
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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              #15
                              Re: Everitt

                              Originally posted by James Cuming
                              I agree entirely with the sentiments expressed by Swoop regarding Everitt.

                              Surely he has to get a gig before Addison-dud and Stack-dud.

                              Everitt appears to have great potential.

                              I would love to hear Eade's reason why Everitt doesn't get a game as often as we think that he should. What is going on? Probably just dumb-ass coach Eade.
                              Can you please post on here with a bit more respect?

                              I accept there are players you think aren't up to it, but to continually denigrate them by constantly referring to them as duds hinders your argument.

                              Some of these players have family & friends who frequent WOOF & I'm sure they too would find this sort of stuff tedious & boring.
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